A Vote

Ben Sears

Ben Sears is a writer and restaurant guy in Birmingham, Alabama. He lives quite happily across from a creek with his wife, two sons, and an obligatory dog. You can follow him on Twitter and read his blog, The Columbo Game.

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7 Responses

  1. Jaybird says:

    Depressing essay.

    One of the things that I see voting as doing is that it provides a way for the population to say “nope, get out of there”.

    This is part of what made Trump’s revolt so revolting. When you throw the bums out, they’re supposed to leave!

    But to the side of that awful defection, there is the whole host of unelected people in jobs that will never, ever change no matter who gets elected.

    Say what you will about “Defund the Police”, it actually had a plan to get rid of police officers. Let’s face it, we can’t fire them. We can’t really get rid of them through attrition. If we even touch the budget, we get a bad case of the blue flu going around and, next thing you know, you won’t even have someone show up to shrug when you point out that your stereo got stolen.

    But let’s say you wanted to Abolish ICE.

    How would you even go about doing such a thing? It’s sure not something you could do through voting.

    There is so much infrastructure built up and it’s unassailable. We’re allowed to vote on silly things that don’t matter. And the things that do matter happen at the agency of people who cannot be voted away.

    (It’s almost enough to make you wonder at what might happen if a Trump gets elected…)Report

  2. Burt Likko says:

    Feels like the meat of this essay is frustration about what kind of influence on voting is permissible and appropriate, and what is not. And the line is blurry, at least in some ways. There’s a reason so many candidates and campaigns run afoul of acceptance, expenditure, and disclosure rules — and there’s also a reason why so little happens at the enforcement end of those rules. A technical violation of those rules, especially if remedied by a subsequent disclosure or putting money back where it should have gone in the first place, ought not to be something that gets in between a politician campaigning and the voters who have to make up their minds about her.

    At the same time, we all know that there is such a thing as corruption, although it’s definitely a bigger problem for Those Other Guys than it is for My Guys, Most Of Whom Are Basically Honest Actually. Certainly it’s a lot easier to see when it’s going on with Those Other Guys.

    I’m reminded a bit of discussions with Brits about constitutional law. “How can you Brits even have a Constitutional court deciding whether statutes are constitutional or not? You don’t HAVE a Constitution!” “But we DO have a Constitution, there is a lot of general agreement bout what it is and what it allows and what it prohibits; we have so much social cohesion we don’t need to write it down anywhere, you see.”

    Voter talks to Politician and says “I like Policy A.” That’s fine. Politician appears at Policy A Advocacy Group, declares for Policy A. That’s fine, even if (perhaps because) Politician thinks Policy A Advocacy Group has a lot of members who will be more likely to vote for her later because of Policy A. But then National Corp, Inc. with a large branch office in Politician’s District comes along and says “We believe Policy ~A is better, vote for it instead, Politician!” And then National Corp., Inc.’s executives bundle up a monetary contribution to Politician’s re-election fund larger than the Policy A Advocates do, and suddenly Politician is publicly vacillating on whether she’s for A or ~A. Has Politician been corrupted? Or legitimately persuaded to moderate her stance?

    The real answer is, we kind of feel our way through such questions. Personal affinity and charisma of the politician can affect how we respond emotionally to things like this. (Which, come to think of it, is dangerous, since politicians are inherently in the business of being emotionally appealing.)

    As for the “politicians bribing voters by giving away goodies,” such has been a complaint about democracy since at least Plato. He saw two corruptions: one in the expansion of the franchise to individuals of middling status in society, taking power out of the hands of the most intelligent, most selfless, and most wise; and second in the subsequent rise of tyrannical redistributionists, who ultimately would become autocrats. Query if in today’s world we generally agree that the highest-status or highest-wealth individuals to be the most intelligent, most selfless, and most wise members of our society.Report

    • Chip Daniels in reply to Burt Likko says:

      “Giving away goodies” would have some bite if people could articulate why it is bad.

      Like, “A cash infusion to every citizen is inflationary” might be a good objection, or “A ban on people loudly talking at movies is an overreach of governance” is another.

      But most of the objections amount to “He’s going to make things better for a lot of people!”Report

  3. Saul Degraw says:

    One person’s giving away of goodies is another person’s view on what is the role and responsibility of government to provide for its citizens.Report

  4. LeeEsq says:

    Joining others in saying that your goodies are really just services that people should expect from the government in a wealthy developed democracy. The people voting themselves the Treasury has been a specter the Right raised before the ink was dry on the Constitution. It turns out not to be the case in any democratic state. Fiscal mismanagement in the name of the welfare is the province of authoritarian dictators seeking a populist sheen like Hugo Chavez rather than democratic governments seeking to do what is good and right. Massive fiscal mismanagement in terms of reckless spending or unspeakable levels of corruption is what dicatorships do.Report

  5. Saul Degraw says:

    https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1579902181997965313?s=20&t=mUTlxDuVtd0iYJthU6DJZA

    “Herschel Walker Campaign Email Cites Urgent Need For Donations To Fund Abortions”Report

  6. Saul Degraw says:

    Goodies for people or Kanye stating he wants to go Death Con 3 on Jewish people and getting support from the Indiana AG and the House GOP Judiciary committee: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/11/opinion/kanye-right-antisemitism.htmlReport