The Failed Plan of Andrew Yang’s New Party

Eric Medlin

History instructor. Writer. Rising star in the world of affordable housing.

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  1. Chip Daniels says:

    The only available niche that Yang can fill is the “Respectable But Embarrassed Republican” which is wildly overrepresented in media offices across America.Report

  2. Jaybird says:

    Part of the issue is that there seems to be a fundamental realignment bubbling under the surface.

    The old two parties may have done a good job of providing a home to the overwhelming majority of people and a choice to the overwhelming majority of the folks left over in the past… but more and more people don’t want to live in either party and don’t want to choose them.

    Which makes stuff like a 3rd Party a lot more palatable. Stuff like Perot and, in 2016, the Libertarians were indicators of this growing discontent.

    I think it’s a sign that, in our lifetimes, we’ll see a new realignment with a new party. Is it going to be Yang’s? Probably not. He’s a (lovable) dork.

    But looking at the two we have now has me remembering the Whigs something awful.Report

    • Marchmaine in reply to Jaybird says:

      This is basically it.

      Just dip our toes into RCV (as we’re starting to dip here and there) and we’ll start to see some revealed preferences emerge.

      I could be persuaded for 50%+1 open election runoff’s a’la Georgia (and French Presidential Elections) for those who have the stomach for two voting events – and to ward off RCV is too haaaaaaard bad faith arguments. Either way, end the first-past-the-pose duopoly however you prefer.

      Yang’s party seems to be advocating for that… if that’s all he does and gets some momentum for just that? It would be political money well spent.Report

    • North in reply to Jaybird says:

      Mmmm I think you’re wrong on the direction element. If one of the existing parties (I’d say the GOP seems more likely of course, but I am a liberal) goes the way of the Whigs it wouldn’t be at the hands of a party attacking them from the political center. People pen peans to the center but the reality is the center isn’t where you can found parties. Parties are anchored in more fringe ideologies and then reach from those anchor points in a centerward direction. The Whigs, for instance, lost out to the Republicans and the Republicans weren’t a centrist party- they were hard core abolitionists, a non-centrist position at the time.

      So if one of the big two goes down I would expect they’d be felled by something non-centrist. A green or socialist party in the unlikely event the Dems go down, for instance; and a Monarchist or hard core populist or autocratic or theocratic party in the event the GOP fails. Yang and all the centrist pap parties that give our elites and media wankers the happy feels are absolutely never going to do the job.Report

      • Jaybird in reply to North says:

        My money is on hard core populist/autocratic.

        The theocrats are over (or, at best, it’s winter). It’ll be a nice post-christian populism.Report

        • North in reply to Jaybird says:

          I would put my money in a similar quadrant. The Theocrats are in a decline that, I think, will require a generational forgetting before people are willing to approach a revised Christianity with a more open mind after the current neo-pagan-soft-atheist moment has its chance to show its fail points and weaknesses.

          Where I hesitate is on the autocratic part. Populism is really popular on its own. You really only need the autocratic element if you’re trying to force some element along with it that’s deeply unpopular. I’m thinking either libertarianism, hard core nativism (not just immigration hesitation, more than that) or some kind of personality cult (Trumpism? Surely the right hasn’t decayed to the point of long term capture by some kind of modern reheated Bolivarianism/Peronism).

          So my money is on Populism with yours but I am less certain about the autocratic part. I feel there’s an intellectual element on the right that hasn’t been fully baked yet and it just feels… missing. If whatever that is pops out it might wed better with populism than the other alternatives and prove genuinely popular rendering the autocratic element unnecessary.Report

          • Chip Daniels in reply to North says:

            Populism is always autocratic, almost by its very definition. Huey Long, Juan Peron, George Wallace, Donald Trump…

            The idea is to draw a line around some group- maybe ethnic, or economic class, or regional, or religious, but some identifiable group and declare them to be The Real People.

            Everyone else of course, are the Unreal People- enemies, interlopers, barely tolerated not-really-legitimate inhabitants of The People’s land.Report

          • Jaybird in reply to North says:

            I’m guessing personality cult. It’ll tie everything together. Part of the problem is that populism is, ultimately, not fashionable.

            It might be *POPULAR* but it will not be fashionable.

            So it’ll be the elite against the populists and it’ll take someone as good at the game as Trump was at the head. I look out and around and don’t see anybody.

            Not yet. Just a bunch of dorks under the old paradigm who also see Trump and try to mimic poorly.Report

  3. Greg In Ak says:

    Yeah a good third party would be nifty. Sadly they all seem to be utter crap. Yang is superb example of guy who loves attention and not a clue in the world. Common sense answers….why gee thanks Andy no one ever thought of that before. Geez. Centrist bsdi is not the basis for squat. Endless temporizing between imagined extremes is in wide supply and going nowhere. Have some actual f’n ideas and policies. Until then he is just another rich guy wanting attention.Report