Briefly, On The Universal Sucktitude of Painkillers

Andrew Donaldson

Born and raised in West Virginia, Andrew has since lived and traveled around the world several times over. Though frequently writing about politics out of a sense of duty and love of country, most of the time he would prefer discussions on history, culture, occasionally nerding on aviation, and his amateur foodie tendencies. He can usually be found misspelling/misusing words on Twitter @four4thefire and his food writing website Yonder and Home. Andrew is the host of Heard Tell podcast. Subscribe to Andrew's Heard Tell SubStack for free here:

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  1. Oscar Gordon says:

    I’ve had morphine twice. Right after my motorcycle wreck, when I had two shattered arms and a destroyed knee. And again after I tore my ACL in the bad knee. I was thankful for them after the accident (although I stopped when they told me to), I tolerated them for precisely as long as I needed to after the ACL (wound up with maybe a third of the bottle left after I stopped taking them).

    I’d rather deal with the pain than the feeling of being on opioids.Report

    • Philip H in reply to Oscar Gordon says:

      Ditto. I got a morphine drip at 18 when I broke my back. They weened me down to Percocet when I left the hospital. I gained significant respect for drug addicts with those tow and the detox process.Report

      • Michael Cain in reply to Philip H says:

        I got off lucky when I had pleurisy the summer I was 16. They only gave me three days of whichever opioid it was, to use while a bazillion units of penicillin did its thing. (“On the fourth day you’re addicted,” said the doc.) The first scary thing was losing big chunks of those three days. The second and scarier in hindsight was that it still hurt like hell to breath, but I just didn’t care.

        Luckier still to have gotten through the ensuing half-century without need for that kind of pain killer again.Report

      • Oscar Gordon in reply to Philip H says:

        After the accident, I gained respect for the addicts, because when you are in that much pain, the bliss of morphine…

        But once the pain began to come down, it was less bliss and much more… I guess frustration is the best word. I was severely frustrated at the way morphine interfered with my ability to think. I could think through pain, especially if I could take the edge off of it. I could never think through an opioid fugue.Report

      • Pinky in reply to Philip H says:

        A friend of mine was going in for knee surgery. The doctor told him that he’d have to be on painkillers afterwards, and my friend said embarrassedly that he’d been on Percocet before and that seemed to work (he didn’t want to come off as asking for it). The doctor laughed at him and said, “Percocet won’t be nearly strong enough. We’ll put you on Percocet to carry you through between dosages of what you’ll be taking.”Report

        • Oscar Gordon in reply to Pinky says:

          It’s truth. The first few days after knee surgery… I can’t begin to describe it. It’s sharp, it’s dull, it’s aching, it’s under pressure, it burns – all at once, all the time. It was 5 days post-op before I stopped needing the morphine to sleep, and maybe 10 days before I could stop the Oxy and switch to OTC meds.Report

          • My somewhat younger sister has had both knees replaced, both shoulders, and one ankle rebuilt by rearranging existing parts. When she wants to make me feel bad, she accuses me of hogging all the good cartilage genes. I have no idea how she’s avoided being addicted to pain meds.Report

            • Oscar Gordon in reply to Michael Cain says:

              She doesn’t have the right kind/amount of receptors?Report

            • Pinky in reply to Michael Cain says:

              I read this as the knees, shoulders, and ankle all being rebuilt by rearranging existing parts. Like, an ACL being hooked up to the left shoulder, a kneecap in the ankle, et cetera. The computer spit out the patient’s name but all of the procedures scheduled for the day.Report

    • They gave me it when my gallbladder went bad. That’s how I knew it was serious.Report

  2. Damon says:

    I’d rather deal with the pain than the feeling of being on opioids.

    Quoted for truth!Report

  3. DensityDuck says:

    Something I wonder is whether there’s something genetic about opioid reception, like it’s the whole “wait, bananas aren’t supposed to be spicy?” thing but for drugs. Because I’ve heard plenty of people say “you know, I took one Vicodin and it did nothing except stop me crapping for the next fifty-four hours”, but there also seem to be plenty of people who gobble the things down like Skittles.Report

    • Oscar Gordon in reply to DensityDuck says:

      Or maybe the amount of receptors in the brain? I mean, for me morphine worked as advertised, as long as the pain was above my threshold. Once the pain dropped below my threshold, it just pissed me off. Same with the Oxy drugs, a tiny bit to take the edge off was fine, but once it started to make me foggy, it just made me frustrated and angry.

      Whenever I torque my knee these days, I just start alternating Tylenol & Motrin every 2 hours and that’s usually enough to make things manageable. And this is not some kind of tough-guy humble brag, if there was a painkiller that didn’t piss me off, I’d be happy to use it (knee pain is no joke).Report

    • A casual search of Google Scholar suggests the medical research has concluded that yes, there’s a fairly wide range of reactions to different opioids, and yes there’s a genetic component to it, sufficient that they’re starting to talk about genetic screening to set dosage and such.

      When the doc and I decided that it was time for me to take something to make my blood pressure more stable, I recall her saying that there were so many BP drugs because for any given molecule, a noticeable percentage of the population didn’t respond, or was allergic to it.Report

  4. Pinky says:

    My opinion on painkillers changed. Let’s see, when was that…before my kidney stone? Maybe sometime after it? No, I remember, it was during my kidney stone. Incomprehensible pain that lasts less than 8 hours: that’s the wheelhouse for opium. I was still in pain after it wore off, but I didn’t want to take another pill. I think DensityDuck is right about different people’s reactions. I wasn’t high, but it felt very unpleasant. Addiction can sneak up on you in two ways though: how good you feel when you take it and how bad you feel when you don’t.

    Andrew, I didn’t realize how rough things have been for you. Prayers your way.Report

  5. North says:

    I’m sorry you’ve had so much trouble Andrew, all my sympathies. If it is any help the post was so viscerally written I winced along with you through every paragraph.

    As for painkillers? I have rarely been in a circumstance where I needed them but I have experienced it in dentistry. The numbing cold sensation is horrible and I dislike it but one time they didn’t numb me up and the pain popped through to say “hello”. Pain, of course, is on the other side of that horrible painkiller wall. I generally understand their value.Report