A CEO Named Mister

Jennifer Worrel

Jennifer Worrel is a transplant from the Great Plains raising two sons and a husband in Metro Atlanta. Extremely likable until you get to know her, she remains a great invite to a dinner party. She prefers peeing in the woods to peeing on private planes and was once told by her husband that she is “way funnier online.” Writes about whatever interests her, she knows a little about a lot. For fun, she enjoys cooking from scratch and watching old Milton Friedman videos on YouTube. Jennifer's thoughts are her own and do not represent the views or position of any firm or affiliate she is lucky enough to associate with.

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  1. Oscar Gordon says:

    Grace is a tough ask these days…Report

  2. InMD says:

    This was a good piece. I’ve come to think a good maxim for life is that you can’t control what other people say to you but you can control how you react. I try to impart that idea to the attorneys and paralegals that report to me, particularly given the tendency of a certain type of executive to scapegoat the lawyers for their failures. That includes using myself as an example of when I fail to live up to my own rule.Report

  3. Douglas Hayden says:

    Reading the article, I don’t think you or Ms. Watkins are that far off from each other. Honestly, if I was the president of a major oil corporation being hauled in front of Congress and they couldn’t even do the basic homework of learning my first name, let alone gender, I’d be pretty miffed myself. Her response sounds to me like the corporate PR version of saying “You idiots.”Report

    • Likely their staff did that homework. Members, especially Senators, never grasp the full details of their briefs because they are pulled in so many ways every day. The good members recognize this and compensate for it.

      And her response is exactly that.Report

  4. Greg In Ak says:

    Unconscious biases can sure as hell be exclusionary and disrespectful. If a person unconsciously is terrified of black people so they keep them out of their neighborhoods or refuse to hire them then that is as exclusionary as it gets. We all have unconscious biases but our conscious mind is responsible for what we do with that and if we try to understand our own thoughts. Unconscious is not an excuse even if it may be a reason.Report

    • Kazzy in reply to Greg In Ak says:

      And this is where diversifying a group can be so impactful.

      Do you remember when there was that face tracking camera that wasn’t detecting Black people? I think it was made by HP or something? Anyway, everyone laughed at the “racist cameras” and then everyone pointed out that cameras couldn’t be racist and blah blah blah. And some folks said that a more diverse development team would have avoided that issue. And not because it would have taken a Black person to say, “Hey… remember to program the cameras to not be racist.” But because if there was a dark-skinned Black person in the room when they were developing the damn thing, they would have noticed that it wasn’t working the same for everyone in the room.

      Unconscious bias is unavoidable. And some folks can get somewhere through conscious reflection of their unconscious biases. But the best way to account for and avoid the most pernicious effects of an individual’s unconscious bias is to work to intentionally avoid collective shared unconscious bias. Hire people with DIFFERENT unconscious biases because their perspectives will overlap in such a way that they can catch a lot more crap that would otherwise go unnoticed by a group of folks who all have the same or same-ish blind spot.Report

      • Greg In Ak in reply to Kazzy says:

        Well said. Learning about our unconscious biases is something i’ve had training on and found very helpful. It’s often the stuff we dont’ think about, just take as natural, that trips us up in life and work.Report

      • Mike Schilling in reply to Kazzy says:

        There was a “Better off Ted” episode much like this (I don’t know which came first.). The high-tech research company it was set in made an electric eye system that opened doors, called elevators, and did other necessary jobs, but it was blind to black people. So each black employee was assigned a white menial to, e.g. stand in front of the elevator when their boss needed to go to a different floor.Report

      • James K in reply to Kazzy says:

        You make a good point, to extend a little, the idea that “cameras can’t be racist” needs a little interrogation.

        A lot of people think of racism as being exclusively about hatred, fear or other forms of emotional antipathy. Since cameras (or more properly, the computer system the camera is running) can’t hate people, they can’t be racist, right?

        But the problem is that a lot of racism, as you note, is implicit bias and that kind of bias isn’t hatred, it’s a misfiring of our pattern recognition systems. And neural networks AI systems are explicitly modelled after human neural architecture – they lean the same way we do. So it shouldn’t be surprising that these pattern recognition systems can fail in the same way ours do. Basically, if a human can learn to be racist then a machine that learns like a human can learn to be racist too.Report

  5. DavidTC says:

    So the premise here seems to be that no one should ever point out unconscious sexism, and if they do, even in the most polite manner after the fact, they should be criticized.

    It sure is weird how one of the basic precepts of a major political party is that there _is_ no unconscious bias, and also this premise is also happening!

    Like, that’s the takeaway here, right? Because if you condemn someone pointing out an example of unconcious sexism (Not you saying ‘that isn’t sexist’, but agreeing it is sexism but is still wrong to talk about), you literally can _never_ argue that rampant sexism doesn’t exist…you’ve indicated that it’s impolite to speak about such thing, so you have deliberately removed most examples from public knowledge.

    And thus the _lack_ of such public examples cannot have any meaning at all. We are free to assume it happens an average ten times a second to every human on the planet, we’d never know.

    Everyone make a note for the next discussion of sexism here. It should be interesting.Report

    • Pinky in reply to DavidTC says:

      Nothing in this comment seems related to the original article or to political / cultural reality. I wish I could say something more constructive than that.Report

      • DavidTC in reply to Pinky says:

        Oh, it has nothing to do with culture.

        But it’s literally about the premise of the article, which is ‘This person shouldn’t have politely called out gender bias at the highest level of government’.

        I mean, did this person interrupt Jennifer in any manner? Did they show up and personally talk to _her_, wasting her time? No. what they did was making a public post telling people something that she apparently doesn’t want within her worldview.. The Linkedin post is _absurdly_ polite.

        Jennifer doesn’t disagree this example is what they say, she doesn’t argue it’s misinterpreted, she doesn’t assert the conclusion is wrong in any manner, she just thinks that everyone should, individually, ‘laugh off” individual ‘mistakes’, which of course is a pretty absurd solution for what she just admitted in the same post was a systemic problem.

        It’s tone policing, but of something so politely done it literally can’t be policed for _tone_, so it’s more ‘Look, we just don’t want this out there’.

        This article is, without seeming to notice it, goes full masks off: Please do not notify us about any -isms that are happening because we, as conservatives, don’t want to know about such things…and then later, as conservatives, we will assert those things are not happening because no one has any real evidence of them…evidence we previously criticized them for talking about.Report