Wonderful Cruelty: It’s Not Funny Until Someone Gets Hurt

Ben Sears

Ben Sears is a writer and restaurant guy in Birmingham, Alabama. He lives quite happily across from a creek with his wife, two sons, and an obligatory dog. You can follow him on Twitter and read his blog, The Columbo Game.

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9 Responses

  1. John Puccio says:

    Comedy is about surprise. Laughter is an involuntary reaction to something unexpected. That’s why timing is essential.

    I think the Brits value “clever” over “funny”. Perhaps being clever always requires a foil, but “funny” does not.Report

  2. Jaybird says:

    In pro wrestling, one of the best tropes is that the heel can establish his bona fides by telling the truth.

    Is there a plothole that everybody but the fans is ignoring? Have the heel be the one to point it out.
    Is there a storyline from last year that everybody but the fans has forgotten? Have the heel ask “Have you guys forgotten September already?”

    If there is a truth about society that everybody is too polite to notice, put it in the mouth of a comedian.Report

  3. Oscar Gordon says:

    There is the element of cruelty, but these days, you have to make sure the cruelty is only aimed up. No punching down, even if it’s a legit bit of BS to call out.Report

  4. Wodehouse is not as kindly as you might think. The Efficient Baxters gets humiliates (and repeatedly BB’d in the butt) as he so richly deserves. Bingo Little always loses the girl in humiliating fashion until he meets and marries noted authoress Rosie M. Banks, at which point Freddie Widgeon takes over that role. Bertie is constantly made to look like an even sillier ass than he is, as the price of continuing his single, superficial, sophomoric way life. Though he does get to tell off Spode in wholly satisfying fashion:

    You hear them shouting: ‘Heil, Spode!’ and you imagine it is the Voice of the People. That is where you make your bloomer. What the Voice of the People is saying is: ‘Look at that frightful ass Spode swanking about in footer bags! Did you ever in your puff see such a perfect perisher?Report

  5. Chris says:

    I think this goes too far, or plays fast and loose with the more click-worthy word “cruel.” Often, for example, the best humor is self-deprecating humor, but if self-deprecation reaches the point of cruelty, we would rightly think that perhaps something is wrong. “Cruel” humor is rarely funny to anyone but the cruel. Granted, pointed, critical, mocking, satirical, etc. humor is often funny, but I think is funniest when not at all cruel, that is, when it tears down boundaries and sacred cows but does not dehumanize.

    There is, and has always been (see, e.g., ancient Greek comedies) a social function to humor, sometimes iconoclastic and irreverent, as when it brings the high and mighty down to our level, but also sometimes in such a way that it reaffirms and strengthens social hierarchies (think of all the misogynistic humor of the last century, e.g.). Cruelty rarely accomplishes the former, at least not in any lasting way, but frequently accomplishes the latter.

    I don’t want to equate this with punching up or punching down, mind you. I generally prefer punching up, or punching level, but punching down can be very funny, and even effective, when done well. One of my favorite funny books is An Béal Bocht by Brian O’Nolan (as Myles na gCopaleen) which is both a parody of the self-pitying Irish autobiographies popular a century ago, punching down at his own people (the poor Irish) in a way that is both very funny and implores the Irish to be better (while also highlighting the role of the English in the plight of the Irish). It’s not meant to be cruel, it’s meant to inspire while making you laugh (at yourself, if you’re an Irish person in the early-to-mid 20th century).

    Also, puns are rarely cruel and often quite funny. Unless you think they’re cruel to language, in which case, good, ’cause fish language.Report

    • j r in reply to Chris says:

      I agree with the basic point that every joke has a butt, but I think that Chris is right about stretching the word “cruel” past the point where it remains meaningful. It is very difficult, though not impossible, to be be simultaneously cruel and funny. This is not because cruelty can’t be funny. It can be. But cruelty is usually about prolonged states of mental and physical anguish, while laughter is a form of breaking tension. You can hold both together for a limited amount of time, but eventually you have to choose to resolve one in favor of the other. You can make fun of someone to the point where it becomes cruel, but at that point we are no longer talking about a performance. We are talking about bullying, which is an interpersonal matter.

      It is hard not to read this piece in the context of contemporary internet discussions about acceptable and unacceptable comedy. This is fine. But if we are being honest, the ethics of the internet don’t really have much to do with cruelty as commonly understood. The ethics of the internet are: when you make fun of me, people like me, or people with whom I sympathize, you are being mean and likely unethical; when you make fun of the people not like me or the people that I don’t like, then you are being righteous and speaking truth to power (or some other such bromide). All the talk of “cruelty” and “punching up v punching down” is mostly after-the-fact rationalization.

      Joe Rogan is a pretty good example of this. His standup routines are about as edgy as Paula Poundstone’s were. He literally tells observational jokes about his cat. Here is a clip of Rogan talking about Hannah Gadsby (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGRbVItPBfA). The Gadsby stuff starts around 3:40. Be careful, though; it’s real edge lord stuff (it’s not). But Rogan is associated with UFC and has a huge podcast that isn’t very discriminating in its guests, so the internet codes him as ‘friend’ or ‘foe’ depending on who the intended audience is and then proceeds to describe him as either “cruel” or “a brave truth teller.” But in truth, these distinctions have almost nothing to do with his style of comedy.Report