CNN Takes Bold Action In Firing Chris Cuomo On A Saturday Night

Andrew Donaldson

Born and raised in West Virginia, Andrew has since lived and traveled around the world several times over. Though frequently writing about politics out of a sense of duty and love of country, most of the time he would prefer discussions on history, culture, occasionally nerding on aviation, and his amateur foodie tendencies. He can usually be found misspelling/misusing words on Twitter @four4thefire and his writing website Yonder and Home. Andrew is the host of Heard Tell podcast.

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  1. Jaybird
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    From the man himself:

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  2. Jaybird
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    Family similarities.

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  3. Pinky
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    There’s no other way this could have ended.

    But what do either of them do from here? They both soiled their chosen professions. Andrew was unlikeable and responsible for thousands of covid deaths. Chris was a hypocrite who used press connections to protect his brother. You can make a case against either of them getting hired for anything, and that’s even without considering the me-too story line. The only virtue in their resumes is that one of them protects his family. You can’t even stick them on a commission or give them a column. I just googled “Andrew Cuomo” and, no kidding, the first link was to Governor Kathy Hochul.Report

    • Jaybird in reply to Pinky
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      I think an indefinite suspension could have lasted 3 months or so if the #metoo thing hadn’t also happened.

      “Are you still talking about that? His brother resigned. No more conflict of interest! I thought you cared about that sort of thing. Well, it’s impossible for him to do it anymore.”Report

    • Philip H in reply to Pinky
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      They lie low for a year or two, living of interest from investments and family businesses. Chris writes a book that is his confession to being a bad boy in service of his brother. He goes on the speaking circuit, not quite apologizing. Three years hence he’s doing political commentary again on CNN but never anchors.

      Andrew gets indicted by the NYAG for some sort of low grade impropriety. He pleads out, pays a fine and retires to run some or another company that pays him handsomely to do nothing.Report

  4. Jaybird
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    Uh-oh, spaghettios.

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    • Marchmaine in reply to Jaybird
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      “In a new statement, a spokesman for the fallen TV star threw his longtime *ally* CNN President Jeff Zucker under the bus”

      Not an ally anymore…

      Sometimes we need the complete meltdown of an alliance structure to illustrate what alliance structures ought to be.Report

    • John Puccio in reply to Jaybird
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      Mark Zucker = Captain Louis RenaultReport

    • Pinky in reply to Jaybird
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      Fredo takes sides against the CNN family.Report

    • CJColucci in reply to Jaybird
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      We already knew that Zucker knew some bad stuff and decided to give Chris a pass. You can have whatever views you want about that, but it was already out there. The current CNN line is that they now know, and didn’t know before, more bad stuff, and that Chris didn’t tell them about it before. It’s still not clear whether it was the “more bad stuff,” or Chris’s lack of candor, or some combination of both, that did him in. Or whether it was something else entirely. But handwaving that Zucker knew something is old news.Report

  5. Jaybird
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    Tangentially related:

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  6. Jaybird
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    Another way to look at it:

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    • Andrew Donaldson in reply to Jaybird
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      Remember when Hannity pulled a loaded gun out on set…that was fun…

      Cuomo should have went long ago, and just cause that Twitter account is paid to put out stuff I’m good with everyone listed there getting their share of invectiveReport

      • Jaybird in reply to Andrew Donaldson
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        If we want journalistic freedom to remain high, we need a single worst-ever journalist.

        And, that way, whenever someone points at any given journalist’s misdeeds, we can just point to that worst-ever guy and say “Well, what about him?”

        And that way no one will ever have to be Al Frankened ever again.Report

        • John Puccio in reply to Jaybird
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          Are the people who host shows in primetime on Fox News, CNN or MSNBC actually journalists?Report

          • Pinky in reply to John Puccio
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            Some by training or previous experience, but other than that, the ones who host news shows are supposed to be acting as journalists, and the ones who host opinion shows aren’t expected to.

            Like the rest of America, I’ve never watched CNN outside of an airport, but I think Erin Burnett and Anderson Cooper are news hosts, and Don Lemon hosts an opinion show. Looking over the schedule at MSNBC, it looks like it’s nearly all opinion. At FNC, it looks like it’s mostly news in the daytime, opinion at prime time.

            I guess the question you’re getting at is, what was Cuomo supposed to be. He did news shows but during the Trump years (CNN’s best ratings era) he was host of an opinion show.Report

            • John Puccio in reply to Pinky
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              Seems most of these hosts want it both ways. Cuomo was a journalist up until the point his brother gave LoveGov a deeper meaning. Then, not so much.

              But even the “newsier” hosts that you mentioned are pretty opinionated when they want to be. They’re not like a Hannity or Maddow – who are clearly there to spew partisan messaging – but it doesn’t take very long to know where they stand on the political spectrum.Report

              • Pinky in reply to John Puccio
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                Agreed. I think the conversation ties into the ongoing debate about internet publishing versus curating. It’s comfortable but irresponsible to hang around the middle, promoting your views but hiding behind some claim to neutrality. It still kills me that we’re expected to treat George Stephanopoulos as merely an observer. But Anderson Cooper is the one who breaks my heart. He’s really intelligent, and wanted to be a journalist. If we were going to avoid the mess we’re in, it would have been due to people like him charting a noble career path.Report

              • Philip H in reply to Pinky
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                With media in private sector hands and the Fairness Doctrine gone, that noble career path is probably dead.Report

              • John Puccio in reply to Pinky
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                I grew up on This Week w David Brinkley and the George Will v Sam Donaldson dynamic. Nothing on Sunday morning (or anywhere else) remotely resembles that show and it’s a shame.Report

              • CJColucci in reply to Philip H
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                Trouble is, that show sucked too. They all did. The good old days are never as good as we remember.Report

              • John Puccio in reply to CJColucci
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                I read your comment and thought it plausible. So I googled the show, and picked an episode from Nov 4, 1984, a few days before the election.

                The show was actually better than I remembered. Brinkley/Donaldson/Will interview VP Bush through 3 blocks (starting around 20 minute mark). Tough questions asked and responded to respectfully. If today’s average show temperate is 98 degrees. This is a noticeably different breezy 72. .

                No comparison between this show and what we see today.

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2eHn9wrJLMReport

              • CJColucci in reply to John Puccio
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                If better than now is the standard, I don’t disagree. But I found them deeply unsatisfying then for a variety of reasons.Report

              • Chip Daniels in reply to CJColucci
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                I found “Jane, you ignorant slut!” deeply satisfying.Report

              • CJColucci in reply to Chip Daniels
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                True story: In our office, when a case goes to trial, we have a post-mortem at which the trial team, first- and second-chair, talk about the issues that arose and how they handled them. My female second-seat and I decided to do a point-counterpoint presentation, though we didn’t disagree about anything. (The only real difference was that when we discussed something ridiculous the other side did, which we both agreed was ridiculous, she was outraged — being young and all — and I was amused.)
                At some point we tried to work in the “Jane, you ignorant slut” bit, but it fell flat because most of the audience was too young to remember it.Report

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