Trump Administration Interference With CDC

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  1. Dark Matter says:

    For perspective: Late Feb 2020 was when…
    1) The number of Covid cases in the US was roughly zero
    2) I thought it was roughly the same as the flu
    3) Team Blue was claiming Trump was a racist for shutting down flights to China.
    4) The WHO had not officially declared it a pandemic (that happened in March).Report

    • Which is why it was a good idea to treat it as a PR issue rather than a medical issue.Report

    • Kazzy in reply to Dark Matter says:

      Yes, a new, emerging, and potentially dangerous situation is one that should be investigated by non-experts instead of experts.Report

      • Jaybird in reply to Kazzy says:

        The experts:


        • Dark Matter in reply to Jaybird says:

          That. We had dueling experts on how bad it was going to be until March.
          At this point in time…
          Only 5 weeks earlier the WHO decided it could be spread person to person.
          Three weeks after this point Trump declared a national emergency, i.e. two days after the WHO decided it was a pandemic.

          The USSR’s initial problems with Chernobyl was there were “experts” who claimed it wasn’t a serious problem. The basic problem was they didn’t get their job via technical competence.

          Our problem was the basic, basic facts of this disease weren’t known by anyone(*). Within the margin of error we could have had something worth shutting down the economy or a new (weaker) flu-ish type disease (i.e. bird-flu 2).

          (*) That assumes this is a natural new thing and not something China was studying and got loose.Report

          • Chip Daniels in reply to Dark Matter says:

            There are always conflicting experts in every situation, always and everywhere. From warfare to business to science, information is always imperfect and minority opinions abound.

            That’s a lame excuse for raging incompetence and indifference at the executive level, the equivalent of “the sun was in my eyes!”Report

          • And since there was disagreement among experts, all of them should be silenced by a corrupt would-be dictator.Report

        • Mike Schilling in reply to Jaybird says:

          He was wrong. Did he suppress other points of view?Report

          • Jaybird in reply to Mike Schilling says:

            Oh, suppressing other points of view is bad. No question there.

            Especially when experts disagree.Report

            • Dark Matter in reply to Jaybird says:

              Sam Daniels : Sir, I sent you the fax six hours ago…

              General Billy Ford : Sam, I am not going to issue an alert.

              Sam Daniels : I don’t wanna bust up your party, sir, butyou gotta issue an alert.

              General Billy Ford : You said it was contained!

              Sam Daniels : I said containment was probable. You should be monitoring the airports, you gotta…

              General Billy Ford : Sam! Do you remember 1989?

              Sam Daniels : Yeah.

              General Billy Ford : You found two lousy cases of Congo fever in Nairobi and we put a note to every American kid’s lunchbox. You remember that?

              Sam Daniels : Yeah, I was wrong.

              General Billy Ford : You were wrong.

              Sam Daniels : Uh-huh.

              General Billy Ford : What about 1992? Lassa fever?

              Sam Daniels : I was wrong. Yup.

              General Billy Ford : Wrong again. But you’re right about this?

              Sam Daniels : No, I could be wrong…

              General Billy Ford : Yet you waltz into my party smelling like dirty socks, snatch me away from Senator Rosales, whom I need not remind you, Sam, is head of the Senate Arms Services subcommittee which is in charge of our f*cking budget.


            • Mike Schilling in reply to Jaybird says:

              Expert 1: Covid will be a crisis.
              Expert 2: Covid will be manageable.
              Expert 3: Covid is a fake made up by the haters and losers.Report

  2. Chip Daniels says:

    This is how authoritarian regimes always behave, where everything becomes politicized and all loyalty is to the man not the nation.

    And it continues. The vaccine wasn’t partisan until the political needs of the man decided it should be so. Now the entire party has swung firmly behind anti-vax hysteria.Report