Trump Sues Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube: Read It For Yourself

Andrew Donaldson

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  1. Philip H says:

    Much like his 60 dismissed election lawsuits this is all about the grift. One hopes the dismissal is quick.Report

  2. Oscar Gordon says:

    *Gets out the popcorn*Report

  3. greginak says:

    This seems not even up to the typical quality of trump lawsuits. Which is saying something but i bet it will buy someone a new gold toilet.Report

    • JC in reply to greginak says:

      The gold toilet is the BORING part of that art exhibit.
      The “favorite toiletpaper dispenser” right beside it — from a truck stop, that Trump has fond memories of (and will talk about if you ask) — that’s the bit that’s fun.

      Trump is a fun sort of guy. (Remember that red button for Coke thing he did in the Oval Office?)Report

    • JS in reply to greginak says:

      The lawyers involved are….

      Let’s just say it’s like going in for leukemia , and finding out your crack medical team is two dentists, a psychologist, a pair of dermatologists, and an oncologist hyper-specialized in prostate cancer.

      They’re all doctors, after all.

      The primary attorney — Matthew Lee Baldwin represents a from a firm specializing in real estate (water damage, property insurance, commercial litigation, and oddly criminal defense).

      I know it says “commercial litigation” in there which seems relevant, except for two things: One, this is hilariously a first amendment case despite being targeted at non-government entities, and two — a glance at his firm shows their “commercial litigation” is, in fact, commercial real estate litigation.

      This is absolutely a grift to pour a few more tens of millions into Trump’s pockets, from the same idiots they conned in “stop the steal”.

      The lawsuit itself is, of course, hilariously bad. It was clearly not run past a 5 year old to determine validity.Report

  4. We should start a pool. How long until it’s officially announced that Trump’s lawyers won’t get paid?Report

    • JC in reply to Mike Schilling says:

      Sooner than you’ll hear about HCQ’s effectivity as run in province-wide population studies in India.
      (Can’t have any competition with Emergency Authorized Money Pits)

      (Yes, this is relevant. When bigtech is busy suppressing news, I’m gonna mention it.)Report

    • JS in reply to Mike Schilling says:

      Well, not getting paid isn’t always bad.

      I mean bad for Rudy, but Rudy has clearly been day drinking for a decade and so was not on the ball.

      Powell, for instance, raised several million for her Kraken lawsuits AND got herself into the right-wing grift circuit (if, sadly, the Q-anon version). For what was perhaps 30 hours of her work, tops, as she collated crowd-sourced stuff and filed under her name.

      She’s out, worst case, a week of billable hours and perhaps 50 to 100k if she’s forced to pay legal fees and maybe sanctioned.

      Why would she care? She made ten years of income in three months AND landed an easier and more lucrative job conning Q-anon for their cash.

      She made retirement money on this.Report

      • Mike Schilling in reply to JS says:

        Yeah. I don’t have any sense of whether Rudy made serious grift money or not.Report

        • JS in reply to Mike Schilling says:

          I think Rudy clearly thought he’d get a cut of Trump’s “legal defense” money (“stop the steal” raised hundreds of millions, of which one can assume Trump got the lion’s share).

          Which, of course, he did not. Trump used a charity to pay for his kid’s scouting dues. He wouldn’t pay Rudy a penny, even if Rudy had won.

          Since Rudy lost, and Trump thought he looked bad doing it, of course Rudy wasn’t getting anything.

          FWIW, apparently Trump is aware he has terrible, terrible lawyers and has taken to just asking random people at his clubs for recommendations.

          Barry Zuckerkorn was not, apparently, available.Report

  5. JC says:

    I remember when the internet used to be fun.
    Closing down speech from people who have alternate viewpoints (even dumb ones) …
    Remember when liberals thought that was a BAD thing?Report

    • InMD in reply to JC says:

      I think we conflate the power of a handful of tech companies with free speech at our peril. Compelled speech also has first amendment implications. We can address the first without getting into the thornier issues of the second.Report

      • JC in reply to InMD says:

        Compelled speech is exactly what liberals cheer for.
        If it’s artists that are being compelled, at least.
        I, for one, find being compelled to make art that I do not believe in, offensive.
        (see: custom creation of a cake for someone’s religious veiling ceremony).Report

        • InMD in reply to JC says:

          I’m uninterested in the hypocrisy.
          Not that it doesn’t exist, but that it’s besides the point. The issue in question is compelling private businesses to publicize speech they don’t want to.

          Now obviously every partisan in the world wants to muzzle speech they don’t like and would love nothing more than to be able to make people say things they do like. The way to deal with that is to protect the marketplace, not pick a side.Report

          • Michael Cain in reply to InMD says:

            Second paragraph first… In an industry based on network effects, the value provided to the individual users increases as the square of the number of users in the network. This means a whole raft of problems trying to maintain a market with a significant number of service providers. Eg, Google has effectively infinite money to throw at projects to compete with Facebook. It’s not enough; all of them have failed because of the network effects. I know people — and am sure most of us do — who have sworn off Facebook for some other platform, then come back because their “network” didn’t follow them.

            The interesting thing related to your first paragraph is Section 230. None of Facebook or Twitter or (probably) YouTube would last the year if Section 230 were repealed and those companies had to accept liability for the things their users say. There’s at least an argument that they should either take on their own liability problems, or they should depend on government protection from liability, but that they can’t have it both ways: block content they don’t like even though it poses no liability threat.Report

            • InMD in reply to Michael Cain says:

              I see it differently, especially with regard to 230. Eliminating it is not freeing the market for user generated content, it’s killing it.

              Your comment gets at the real issue though, which IMO isn’t speech policing, it’s that a small number of companies may have become too powerful.Report

  6. CJColucci says:

    I’m torn between a guild loyalty to the idea that lawyers should get paid, astonishment that some new crop of layers is willing to take on the open and notorious risk of not getting paid, and a strong sense that anyone willing to bring these lawsuits deserves to get screwed.Report