Disney Must Scratch My Itch Or Else, He Huffed At The Keyboard

Andrew Donaldson

Born and raised in West Virginia, Andrew has since lived and traveled around the world several times over. Though frequently writing about politics out of a sense of duty and love of country, most of the time he would prefer discussions on history, culture, occasionally nerding on aviation, and his amateur foodie tendencies. He can usually be found misspelling/misusing words on Twitter @four4thefire and his food writing website Yonder and Home. Andrew is the host of Heard Tell podcast. Subscribe to Andrew's Heard Tell SubStack for free here:

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  1. Doctor Jay says:

    So, when I think of “inclusive haircuts” I wonder: Are you bent out of shape because some ride attendant or concession seller might be sporting dreads? Or have some color in their hair? Is that what’s bugging you?

    Good lord, you need to get out more. After two visits, you won’t even notice. And what in the Nine Worlds does this have to do with Christianity?

    At one level, this amuses me since I fought this fight a long time ago, somewhere between high school and college. You know the whole “men have LONG HAIR!!!” business of the 70s. Did he not get the memo?

    By the way, I think it’s quite real when he says that he doesn’t get to express himself at his workplace. I’d bank on that being absolutely true, and also kind of a shame. Maybe he’d like an earring or a bit of magenta in his hair. Maybe he just wants to wear a shirt that isn’t white. Too bad he can’t have that.

    Wow, that sounds like sarcasm, but it isn’t. I mean it.Report

    • veronica d in reply to Doctor Jay says:

      Because purple haired people can’t be Christian I guess — never mind LGBTQ people.

      This reminds me of an anecdote Brandon Sanderson once shared. He once took his NYC based literary agent to an SLC bookstore. Evidently, one of the bookstore employees was a goth, with purple hair and everything. Anyhow, the employee asked to agent to recommend some books to her, so the agent recommended the True Blood series — I assume this was a number of years back, before those books were so widespread. Anyhow, the employee responded (I paraphrase from memory), “Oh no, those are way too racy.”

      On the way out of the store, the agent quipped to Mr. Sanderson, “Wow, SLC really is a different place.”

      I thought it was funny. Plus, don’t judge people by their hair or music. We vary, as do Mormons.

      The guy who wrote the article is a complete ninny. Disney is shit and their commitment to diversity is shallow — but it’s fine. Of all of Disney’s problems, being tolerant and diverse is not one of them.Report

      • Jay L Gischer in reply to veronica d says:

        We’re pretty much on the same page. As usual.Report

      • I remember being at a used record store (remember those?) making my way down an aisle, and having to stop because the person ahead of me picking up and examining every record in the bin he was at. He was a big guy with wild blue hair and a safety pin through his nose. I was considering skipping that one (even though it was “K’ and I wanted to see what Kinks albums they might have), when he turned to me and said “I’m sorry, I’m taking too much time, aren’t I? You look at these and I’ll wait for you.”

        So, you never know.Report

        • veronica d in reply to Mike Schilling says:

          That’s not even slightly surprising to me. In fact, I would expect your average punk to be more considerate than your average prep dude. There are exceptions, sadly, but a lot of the antisocial dicks gravitated to skinhead culture and away from punk.

          I guess age matters. I think a lot of high school aged punks were kind of dicks, especially if they were with their friends. But older punks are about the coolest people you’ll meet — provided you can deal with the fact that they’re often completely dysfunctional in their day to day lives.

          Like, if you let them crash at your house, there are even odds you’ll come home to find them passed out with a needle sticking out of their vein. So don’t do that. But just to meet in public — they’re totally cool.Report

    • Jaybird in reply to Doctor Jay says:

      Snow White with a Skrillex.Report

      • Doctor Jay in reply to Jaybird says:

        As amusing as that sounds, I feel sure that’s not what Disney is doing. When you are in costume as a character, you are going to be in costume as that character. Maybe that’s what he’s worried about?

        This seems more like all the other “cast members” at the parks getting to have tats and blue hair and dreads and maybe even Skrillexes. I guess maybe that stuff is seen as pagan? Report

        • Jaybird in reply to Doctor Jay says:

          When I was in my 20’s, they did the “Eurodisney” thing and the French gave it the nicknames “Mousewitz” and “Duckau”. Or so the rumors went.

          Rumors in America included how workers there won the right to wear their own underwear.

          So hearing that Disney is loosening up is one of those things that gets me to say “oh, whew… good”.

          THOSE POOR PEOPLE.

          (That said, turning Pirates of the Caribbean into Boyscouts of the Caribbean was, and remains, bullcrap.)Report

          • Michael Cain in reply to Jaybird says:

            My single ride through Pirates of the Caribbean was as a 24-year-old adult in Anaheim. I admit to being incredibly impressed by the effects, and really never noticed that the pirates were selling off women captives.Report

            • Chip Daniels in reply to Michael Cain says:

              Nobody ever seems to like my pitch for a revamped Pirates ride:

              Riots Of The Inner City

              “Watch the wackiest bunch of rioters ever to set upon a city as they smash windows, set fires, and loot stores!”

              The visitors watch from slow moving vehicles as they wind through a major city watching as audio-animatronic rioters first confront police, in a display of force. The sets include authentic whiffs of tear gas and pepper spray, then move past a progression of increasingly violent scenes of bystanders pulled from vehicles and beaten.

              Some comedy relief is offered by scenes such as the mayor having his head held under water by rioters, while his wife pleads for him not be be chicken.
              Other scenes involve pirates looting stores, with one walking unsteadily under a dozen hats perched precariously on his head, and other scenes of rioters chasing attractive young women around and around, the purpose of the chase left to the adult imagination.

              The final dioramas depict a city in smoldering ruins and a rioter sitting triumphantly atop a massive haul of looted treasure.

              All in all, a rollicking fun time.Report

              • I was also much taken by the scene-setting at the Haunted Mansion. So much so that a few years after my visit, Dream Park was published, and they got to the bit in the elevator when:

                The voice changed suddenly, all friendliness gone from it. “After all, this isn’t the children’s show, is it? So we won’t be giving you the Legend of Sleepy Hollow. No, you’re the brave ones. You’ll go back to your friends and tell them that you’ve had the best that we can offer and, why, it wasn’t so bad after all… Well, it’s not going to be like that. One thing you people forget is that we are allowed a certain number of… accidents per year. No, don’t bother, the door is locked.”

                And I was like, no, Bell Labs is not where I want to work. I want to work there.Report

      • veronica d in reply to Jaybird says:

        Sounds cool.

        Prediction: kids would find it fun and interesting. It’s the parents who would be asshats.Report

  2. Oscar Gordon says:

    You’d miss Disney, and Disney wouldn’t miss you at all.

    Thus is how all possessive relationships end.Report

  3. Douglas Hayden says:

    “I know nothing of the man, and will keep all comments exclusively to this article and not he himself”

    C’mon, at least mention the guy is/was an assistant DA from Las Vegas whose pro-life bonafides somehow don’t apply to Death Row: https://twitter.com/MikeBeauvais/status/1385600650319482882Report

  4. LeeEsq says:

    Corporations and high profile business people used to be very reliable allies in the fight for social order and conformity. This recently changed and conservatives don’t like it. In a globalized economy, it just makes too much business sense to go for a light cosmopolitan liberalism as your social ethos for company rather than Anglo-Protestant Americana. There is too much money in the former and not enough in the later. Hard right conservatism is literally bad for the bottom line these days.Report

  5. fillyjonk says:

    Wow, some folks just think they’re special. Disney doesn’t give a Mickey’s ass about the guy; there are literal millions of people willing to pay the high entry fees and not complain about how the thing doesn’t conform *exactly* to what they wanted.

    You see this in a lot of fandoms; people getting all frothy when “their” tv show “ships” the pair of characters that they did not want “shipped” or when some character grows and changes in a way counter to what that particular fan envisioned.

    I dunno, as someone who was taught early on by my parents that (a) my feelings were not special and privileged over others and (b) I won’t always (or even usually) get what I want, I look at folks like this and just shake my head at how hard adulthood must be for themReport

    • CJColucci in reply to fillyjonk says:

      Or how hard adulthood will be when they get there.Report

    • Doctor Jay in reply to fillyjonk says:

      Well, as an example, I was very disappointed when Iron Man 2 paired up Tony and Pepper. Pepper seemed more sensible than that. She cares about Tony, but that could remain as a friendship, not life partnership.

      It just kind of felt dumb and conventional and I was kinda sore about it.

      But I didn’t stop watching or anything like that. And it played out well in the long run.Report

    • JS in reply to fillyjonk says:

      What’s really hilarious to me is when people do it about fanfiction.

      “You’re gonna start a 10 page gripe-fest and screaming match because a guy writing fanfic, who I must stress does it for FREE so you read for FREE, doesn’t make exactly the story you want?”

      I’ve seen a few authors, just doing it for fun and practice, get stressed out over massively critical reviews that aren’t about the story (not about plot problems, characterization flaws, continuity errors, grammar errors, poorly flowing scenes, etc) but are literally “You’re writing about THIS and I want to read about THAT. CHANGE IT YOU SUCK”.

      How…how do you even get to that place as a person?Report

  6. Chip Daniels says:

    What’s interesting is that a critique of Disney as being “politically correct” is a historical staple…of leftwing commenters.

    That is, Disney has been (correctly) accused of offering a whitewashed euphemized distorted “fake news” version of the historical places and societies it uses for entertainment right down to making the awful atrocities of actual Caribbean pirates into harmless hijinks.

    This version of history is the “politically correct” version that midcentury America wanted and demanded with its entertainment dollars. But now of course, that America has moved on and the one replacing it no longer is entertained by grinning native simpletons and lovable rapists.

    But that’s what is really underpinning virtually the entire conservative movement now, the cultural panic at being in the minority and having to share cultural space with the sort of people who never used to matter.Report

  7. OK, but when I go to King’s Landing Town, and the guy playing Tyrion is not only 6’3″ but keeps texting …Report

  8. Pinky says:

    Every company needs its core customers more than the core customers need the company. This guy isn’t going to lose his job if he stops spending on Disney products. He’ll just be going to Universal Parks or the Grand Old Opry. Disney employees can lose their jobs if he stops going though. I’m guessing his job was more stable during the covid shutdown than the average Disneyland worker.

    It won’t even affect his identity, which is presumably more conservative Christian Republican than Disney fan. If you can say his identity will change at all, it’ll be into an anti-Disney person. I don’t remember who it was in the world of marketing who said that there are three levels of loyalty. There’s casual loyalty (like to brands) and strong loyalty (like to ideology), but the middle one is small-things loyalty rooted in underlying conviction (like this guy feeling betrayed by Disney). Companies spend billions on their corporate image because if you can get people to buy soap with the passion they have reciting their creed, you’ve got a potential customer for life. It’s not making soap decisions super important; it’s connecting soap decisions to things that are super important.

    None of this indicates whether Disney is better off at the macro level making certain changes, though.Report

  9. DavidTC says:

    I’m someone who knows a random amount of Disney employees. Like, I know so many that I don’t actually remember how many of them still work at Disney. I can count at least ten people in my head who have worked at Disney, I literally spoke to an ex-employee of them yesterday just by chance, and I know I’ve forgotten or just didn’t know at least that many more.

    And people are thinking ‘Oh, DavidTC is in Georgia, so close to Disney World’…I’m a seven-hour drive from Disney. No, the reason I know people who work for Disney because in the amateur (And non-union ‘professional’) theatre scene, near-ish to Disney, there’s a certain amount of recruitment by Disney. Not overt, but…more like Disney tries to make sure we know they’re there, to come and audition, etc. There’s definitely some deliberate word-of-mouth.

    Disney doesn’t hire people for their characters without any acting experience, but they also don’t want the price tag of actual professional actors. They even like acting experience in a lot of the staff that aren’t technically ‘characters’ but have to remain ‘in character’, like the people selling food pretending to be in a Star War universe or on whatever the Avatar planet was called.

    Honestly…they seem to want that in even in things that couldn’t vaguely be considered character roles…at least two of the actors I know applied at Disney and ended up in general hospitality, from what I remember. Ticket sales and stuff. At least to start with.

    If you have any acting experience at all, and seem to be competent, you are going to get in the door at a Disney theme park. They are very actor-oriented, for lack of a better term.

    Thus, Disney is, in a way, a dream job for a certain kind of young actor. It’s a lot more accessible, and more consistent employment than trying to find Real Roles, it’s better paid than a lot of minor stuff, and…it’s a real, large corporation which means benefits, scheduling of vacations, sick days, etc, and avoids most of the stress of acting gigs, which can often be horrible conditions. You probably won’t make it big, but you also won’t have to work as wait staff while cycling between auditions…and still not make it big. Even if you end up somewhere that isn’t acting, you can move around internally.

    So the sort of people who end up _wanting_ to work at Disney theme parks are, to a large extent, theatre people.

    So…yeah, some of them have weird hair. And tattoos. And other things.

    And I suspect what’s happened here is that Disney is running low on the sort of people it likes to hire. And it made a decision of ‘slightly weirder actors’ or ‘normies’ and picked ‘slightly weirder actors’.Report

    • LeeEsq in reply to DavidTC says:

      The filming of Enchanted was considered a minor boom for a lot of dancers in New York City because Disney did big raids on the dance studios for background dancers. At least three of my teachers were in it. They got SAG members as a result and this means they receive money everytime Enchanted played on TV somewhere. Every decreasing amounts of money but still a nice little subsidy.

      But this all makes sense. Disney is a great gig if you were a theater nerd in high school that wanted to continue it till adulthood, especially if you don’t have much artistic pretension and like acting more. It can look impressive on a resume too if you start getting to old for whatever you do as Disney or you can move up in the Disney corporation to a different office.

      Even for the general hospitality roles like theater sales, wanting something of an actor makes sense because an actor might be able to maintain a sunny countenance when dealing with the multitudes rather than a person just needing the work. The last thing Disney wants is for a customer to deal with a grumpy person.Report