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James K

James is a government policy analyst, and lives in Wellington, New Zealand. His interests including wargaming, computer gaming (especially RPGs and strategy games), Dungeons & Dragons and scepticism. No part of any of his posts or comments should be construed as the position of any part of the New Zealand government, or indeed any agency he may be associated with.

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  1. Avatar Michael Siegel
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    Complete absolute dominance by the Labour Party. Strange how the voters reward competence that way.Report

  2. Avatar Stillwater
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    I don’t follow New Zealand politics at all, but I found the linked interview with a National Party politician really interesting, mostly because of how it contrasts with US media. The problems in our country go a lot deeper than merely politicians who lie.

    https://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/status/1317808494884552704Report

    • Avatar George Turner
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      It looks like their press is almost as bad as our press. Objectivity and fairness has been totally rejected as any kind of journalistic standard. Only a few decades ago an interview like that would’ve gotten the journalist fired. In the old days, viewers couldn’t guess a what a journalist’s personal beliefs or political leanings were because the journalist could interview anybody without giving anything away.Report

    • Avatar Pinky
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      I don’t know what that was supposed to be, but it wasn’t an interview. There was no intention to listen. She wasn’t even asking questions; I mean, the sentences were structured as questions, but she was just telling him off. Opposing candidates behave better than this.Report

    • Avatar James K
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      OK, so a little context there.

      That is Jami-Lee Ross being interviewed by Newshub’s Tova O’Brien. Now Jami-Lee Ross is not a National MP any more, he was elected as part of National in 2017, but he left the National Party in 2018 after a very public dispute with then-leader Simon Bridges. He remained in Parliament as an Independent.

      Earlier this year, presumably in response to his negligible prospects for re-election, he decided to join forces with Advance New Zealand, a lunatic fringe party whose policy platform derives entirely from the floor sweepings of 4Chan conspiracy theories.

      To be clear, the mainstream right wants nothing to do with Advance New Zealand – their political positions aren’t really coherent enough to fit onto the political description, and National has no love for Jami-Lee Ross. David Seymour, who leads Act called Billy Te-Kahika (Advance New Zealand’s leader), in these exact words, “a fucking idiot”. Advance New Zealand received less than 1% of the vote on Saturday.

      This is not the mainstream right being beaten up on by some radically left-wing journalist. This is a man who lit his own political career on fire, then tried to salvage it by selling some of Parliament’s integrity to a bunch of lunatics. And then when that failed utterly O’Brien refused to accept soggy platitudes in place of answers and wouldn’t allow him to continue to spew misinformation into the public domain (she only shut him down when he tried to get into nonsense about COVID being no deadlier than influenza).Report

      • Avatar Mike Schilling
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        Advance New Zealand, a lunatic fringe party whose policy platform derives entirely from the floor sweepings of 4Chan conspiracy theories.

        So, it’s like our Republican Party.Report

        • Avatar George Turner
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          No, it sounds more like the Democrats who see Russians under every bed and white supremacists behind every tree. They’re still at it.Report

      • Avatar Pinky
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        You wouldn’t interview David Duke or Ted Wheeler this way.Report

        • Avatar James K
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          A journalist shouldn’t let a subject get away with dodging questions, nor should they allow their subject to lie unchallenged on air. That’s the difference between an interview and a puff piece.Report

          • Avatar Pinky
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            She wasn’t challenging the answers, though. She wasn’t listening to them enough to do so. Now, I don’t know New Zealand speech patterns (and I’m not saying that facetiously) but typically in English there’s an audible question mark at the end of a question. She wasn’t doing that. She’s insult him and “ask a question”, he’d answer, she’d re-insult and re-ask, he’d re-answer, and she’d add another insult and move onto the next question. I know nothing about the context but I can think of a half-dozen follow-up questions she could have asked in order to dig deeper. She wasn’t looking for information. She wasn’t, in any real sense, challenging him. It was the exact opposite of a puff piece, but that’s not the same thing as an interview.Report

          • Avatar Stillwater
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            This.Report

        • Avatar Mike Schilling
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          But you should interview Donald Trump this way.Report

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