Marijuana dispensaries are deemed ‘essential’ in LA, allowed to stay open during coronavirus order

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  1. Avatar Jaybird
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    Kinda messed up how it’s kinda illegal.Report

  2. Avatar Michael Cain
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    So far as I know, no place has deemed liquor stores to be non-essential. Equal treatment for all intoxicants!Report

    • Avatar Saul Degraw
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      PA closed the state liquor stores (which is the only place you can buy much booze in PA). This led to a bunch of articles on how alcoholics will go through the DTs because of withdrawal.

      The lists of what are and what are not essential services is a testament to the power of local interests and lobbying.Report

      • Avatar Michael Cain
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        Heck, and Colorado loosened its rules so that restaurants open for pickup and delivery can include alcohol.Report

        • Avatar Saul Degraw
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          I heard you can do pick up cocktails in SF now. There are restaurants selling bottles of wine to go but I do not understand why anyone would want to pay the mark up except from extreme laziness.Report

          • Avatar Kazzy
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            Really? Laziness is the only reason?

            I’m on Day 7 home alone with the boys; their mom is on quarantine. I’m unwilling to take them into stores to minimize their risk of exposing others as carriers.

            You can bet your ass I’d pay the markup to make one stop and get food AND wine without entering a store if I didn’t have it at home.

            And I don’t have it nearly as hard as others.

            Get your head out of your ass and consider a perspective beyond your own.Report

          • Avatar InMD
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            I’m ordering take out from one of the local bars later. Might be some alcohol too despite being well stocked. It’s one of the places I want to still be here 6 months from now and will pay a mark-up to support that, as long as I’m not on the chopping block anyway.Report

        • fillyjonk fillyjonk
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          Texas apparently has, too. Don’t know about my state. I’m not a drinker so that doesn’t matter to me, but I get how that matters a lot to many people. My personal biggest “vice” is sugar, I have sufficient cookies and chocolate at this point in time.

          I am also very happy I placed a large order with my favorite loose-tea provider about a month ago, I am also well stocked with thatReport

      • Avatar LeeEsq
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        Maybe PA decided that their liquor stores are non-essential because they are government owned and don’t want to deal with liability issues if a state worker got infected.Report

    • Avatar PD Shaw
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      As I understand it, in Illinois alcohol is considered a grocery item, so the liquor stores operate under the same rules as grocery stores. That is, one may enter the store to shop, as opposed to conducting the transaction on the street or parking lot outside.Report

      • fillyjonk fillyjonk
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        It’s always a mindbender to me when I visit my mom in Illinois, coming from a state that was very, very recently totally “dry” except for liquor stores and low-point beer, to walk into the Walgreens near her and see an entire aisle of hard liquor. I cannot help but think that’s a big money maker for them.Report

  3. Avatar Stillwater
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    Off thread, but so utterly astounding I have to share it.

    As it stands right now, governors are bidding against each other for medical equipment and supplies for in-state use, in some cases being outbid by the federal government, which is driving prices up and leaving others with shortfalls. The governor of Illinois mentioned this state of affairs in the form of a complaint about the Fed Gov’s role. This is Trump’s response:

    Governor of Illinois, and a very small group of certain other Governors, together with Fake News @CNN & Concast (MSDNC), shouldn’t be blaming the Federal Government for their own shortcomings. We are there to back you up should you fail, and always will be!

    Trump explicitly says that his view of the federal government’s role is to back them up “should they fail,” rather than proactively helping them to succeed. But we know *already* that states in fact are failing to acquire – and will continue to fail to acquire – these supplies because not enough of them are being produced and Trump’s taken effectively zero action to remedy that problem. I know that Trump and conservatives like to say the quiet part loud, but this admission is thunderous. To me anyway.Report

    • Avatar Stillwater
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      Iron Law: Trump would rather the institution of American governance fail than lose his power within the institution.Report

    • Avatar Stillwater
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      Illinois Governor Pritzker responds:

      You wasted precious months when you could’ve taken action to protect Americans & Illinoisans.

      You should be leading a national response instead of throwing tantrums from the back seat.

      Where were the tests when we needed them?

      Where’s the PPE?

      Get off Twitter & do your job.

      Christamighty, this is going to end tragically for so many people….Report

      • Avatar PD Shaw
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        He’s a hotelier, beneficiary of inherited wealth that like to talk like he was raised as a big-city construction worker and who has spent way too much of his time of late blaming his political opponents. And Trump’s obnoxiously bad too.Report

        • Avatar Stillwater
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          One is proactively using his constitutionally accorded power to resolve a serious health crisis, the other is actively making things worse.

          Both sides are obnoxiously bad!Report

    • Avatar Saul Degraw
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      I agree with your Iron Law. What is also interesting is that the response to this pandemic seems to be driven by ideological priors and rigidity. Governor Abbot in Texas and Governor DeWine in Ohio are arguably the only two Republican governors from red or reddish states taking this seriously. Barker and Hogan govern blue states and need to act accordingly.

      So you have liberals working really hard to socially distance no matter the cost or pain and then a lot of red staters still going “fake news.” Or libertarians who say that economic collapse is not worth the cost of saving lives and flattening the curve.Report

      • Avatar Kazzy
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        The argument against “economic collapse” is not limited to libertarians and is about all the costs that arise from shut down versus the costs of not shutting down.

        Some folks will die directly due to shut down. Some will die indirectly. Some will be greatly harmed.

        That doesn’t mean a shut down is wrong but it does need to be considered.Report

    • Avatar greginak
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      Markets can never fail and whatever happens when you invoke a market is the Best. Doubt at your peril.

      Yes. His failures and corruption is now leading to deaths and likely a lot of them. You would think ordering production of giant piles of med gear would be the f*cking simplest easiest thing any prez could do and which would help. Yet somehow he fails at this.Report

    • Avatar Jaybird
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      We’re going to re-learn a lot of things that our parents had leisure to forget and we mocked our grandparents for thinking.Report

      • Avatar InMD
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        All depends on how long this goes on. If the worst is blunted in 6-8 weeks we will all brush ourselves off and pretend nothing happened. If we’re still doing this in July we’ll be re-learning those lessons good and hard. If we find ourselves in November without a vaccine and a resurgence working its way up from the southern hemisphere well… who knows what the order will be this time next year.Report

        • Avatar Jaybird
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          Hoping for the 6-8 weeks scenario… currently the best case scenario. If we get the best case scenario, I’d like to schedule a conversation about whether we should move manufacturing back to stateside for stuff like “medical supplies”. I’d also like to have a conversation about J-I-T logistics supply chains.

          If we’re still doing this in July, we’ll probably want to talk about other things.

          November? We’ll be talking about Federalism. For real, this time.Report

          • Avatar InMD
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            The bill on having no industrial policy and magic trickle down thinking is really coming due isn’t it? And it’s funny, none of the supply side, with all its built in advantages and hand outs is coming through for us. Maybe we’ll learn how to do collective action again, or maybe we’re too far gone.Report

            • Avatar Chip Daniels
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              “There is no such thing as society, only individuals.”
              Maggie Thatcher

              Hard to have herd immunity if you don’t believe in herds.Report

              • Avatar InMD
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                Oh I don’t think the ability to take collective action when warranted is in irreconcilable conflict with individualism. More just that we’ve allowed ourselves to be talked into the soft, comforting idea that we can always have our cake and eat it too. We’ve traded real investment in ourselves for cheap toys instead. Short term pleasure instead of deferred gratification. Etc. Etc. Etc.

                And maybe its just me but any time a situation like this is posed as collectivism vs. individualism I get a creepy vision of the moral majority or the woke brigades or whoever storming my home over my various sins. To me this is less a matter of philosophy and more one of being exceedingly foolish with our money. We blew our inheritance on silly foreign toys when we should’ve been building a nest egg or saving for a rainy day.Report

              • Avatar Jaybird
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                I’m remembering my Nietzsche, for some reason.

                Zarathustra, in particular.Report

              • Avatar Chip Daniels
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                When I hear the word Nietsche, I reach for my Otto:

                Report

        • Avatar LeeEsq
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          Six to eight weeks is about as much social distancing and shelter in place that I think people can put up with. Somebody on another blog pointed out that modern people don’t have the wherewithal to deal with this the way our grandparents and great-grandparents dealt with the Great Depression and World War II. In some ways, I think what we are being asked to is a greater deprivation.

          Great Depression era people had to deal with material deprivation but were still allowed to be social creatures. You could hang out with friends and family, date, and participate in your community. We are being asked to keep our distance and live alone as much as possible. Even with the Internet that is pretty big ask. Saying no meeting with friends and family and no romance and sex for eighteen months is just too much.Report

          • Avatar InMD
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            It’s definitely much more of a mental game. I can tell you being shut in with a toddler without usual outlets has been intense. And this has been with daycare open. It shuts down officially Wednesday after which I’m expecting all manner of acting out and none of the usual mini-sanctuaries.Report

          • Avatar Stillwater
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            In some ways, I think what we are being asked to is a greater deprivation.

            Lock-down, day 7: Dearest Mollie, provisions remain stocked though toilet paper continues to be our greatest concern. Spirits are low. Never before, in the history of our great country, have people been asked to sacrifice as much as we are now. Tell mother that I love her. .Report

            • Avatar LeeEsq
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              I know you are joking but humans are generally social creatures with some exceptions. Telling people not to engage in real world socialization with friends and family for eighteen months is really unprecedented. We are meant to be in human contact with each other. Plus, not everybody has a job that can be done from home or reserves of cash to get through the crisis. Things are going to get real bad emotionally and materially for a lot of people.Report

  4. Avatar LeeEsq
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    It makes sense to hold that marijuana distributors are an essential business. Many people need marijuana to ease chronic pain. You don’t want to overwhelm hospitals when they need to be dealing with Covid-19 patients. Marijuana is calming drugs and will help recreational users keep sanity as they stay cooped up in their doors.Report

    • Avatar Jaybird
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      I would tend to agree, except for the minor part where it’s *ILLEGAL*.Report

      • Avatar LeeEsq
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        We are talking about where it is legal though.Report

          • Avatar Michael Cain
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            You got politicians and cops there suddenly saying, “To hell with what the state constitution and law say. Let’s take advantage of the pandemic to close down the dispensaries?” Or DEA sniffing about, thinking that at a time when the federal courts are struggling under the load, it’s a good idea to arrest the owners and staff?Report

            • Avatar Jaybird
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              I haven’t heard anything about that down here (yet) but it is something that I’d be worried about, given the amazing amount of money that is rolling in.

              Of course, it’d give a black eye to the DEA but who cares? It’s not like you can vote the DEA out.Report

        • Avatar George Turner
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          It’s obvious that these critical medical supplies should be provided for free during this crisis, instead of letting the industry exploit their customers for profit.

          *eyeballs the West Coast twitterverse*

          As Captain Kirk would say “Load tubes one and two and fire for effect!”Report

  5. Avatar Burt Likko
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    Methinks tax revenue from dispensaries that’s what’s “essential” but YMMV.Report

  6. Avatar Dark Matter
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    The governor of Ohio has shut down abortion clinics, you know, to fight the virus.

    “On behalf of the Department, you and your facility are ordered to immediately stop performing non-essential and elective surgical abortions,” each letter states. “Non-essential surgical abortions are those that can be delayed without undue risk to the current or future health of a patient.”

    https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-news/ohio-attorney-general-orders-abortion-providers-to-halt-offering-procedure/Report

  7. Avatar Aaron David
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    I noticed that a prominant “marital aid” store up in the capital has added a dispensary on the inside. Not sure which one gives shoppers cover for the other any more, but I have renamed it in my head as Bongs n’ Dongs.Report

  8. Avatar Al
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    Trump’s kids do not smoke or drink anything like regular deplorebles. As reports state. No prob.Report

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