Good Intentions, Lessons Learned

DW Dalrymple

DW is an ex-mountaineer now residing in the Palmetto State, a former political hack/public servant, aspiring beach bum and alleged rock-n-roll savant. Forever a student of the School of Life. You can find him on Twitter @BIG_DWD

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13 Responses

  1. Michael Cain says:

    …it will be up to my fellow Americans to pull the lever.

    I hate to go off on a tangent as the first comment, but… The last presidential election where any lever voting machines were used was 2008. New York allowed some special districts to continue to use lever machines later than that, but the last of those have now been retired. “Pull the lever” is one of those phrases that will puzzle the young people going forward. Some older people as well — I’ve lived in Colorado for 30+ years and never used a lever machine here.Report

    • Jaybird in reply to Michael Cain says:

      Well, start dialing the phone for your candidate, then.Report

    • DW Dalrymple in reply to Michael Cain says:

      Pull the lever, punch the card, check box, tap the screen….I’m pretty sure it’s implied what pulling the lever is and just maybe the people who don’t know what it means will look it up and learn something, even if it is trivial. They might win at Jeopardy one day or trivia night at the local watering hole (a bar for the young people) and get a free beer because of their newfound knowledge of voting machines of the olden days….now THAT’S a tangent. Thanks for reading Michael…Report

    • Oscar Gordon in reply to Michael Cain says:

      My very first election, in 1992, I pulled a lever in a great big booth with one big lever for straight line voting, and a whole bunch of smaller levers if you wanted to pick and choose.

      Never saw such a machine again.Report

  2. Jaybird says:

    This is a problem with incentives.

    Everything is a problem with incentives, of course, but especially this.Report

  3. Aaron David says:

    I would be willing to bet good money that the ice cream shop was on a lease, with an iron clad section that says they can do this on the propery as long as they keep paying the monthly. Churchs are notoriusly bad at businss most times.

    And of course people follow the letter of the law and not the “spirit.” Spirits are good smokes, but poor lawyers.Report

  4. Urusigh says:

    A fine article with an excellent point.Though anecdotal, this is a superb example of why “government should do something!” is so often a terrible idea, especially in moral matters.

    The “if it’s going to happen anyway, isn’t it better that we regulate and tax it?” argument rarely works out well in reality for a simple reason: it moves the context of discussion from the more nuanced and debatable frame of “is it moral/socially acceptable?” to the simple binary of “is it legal?”, thus conflating “should” it be done with “can” it be done. The latter is a much lower standard to meet, so it makes it that much easier to self-justify and escape the previous social opprobrium for engaging in morally dubious actions. In essence, by ruling on the matter itself, the government effectively silences the social community’s voice on that issue.Report

  5. Really great piece DW! Thank you!Report

  6. DW Dalrymple says:

    Thank YOU for reading it Kristen!Report

  7. Damon says:

    DW. They all lied to you. The minister was “shocked shocked” that was the plan. Right. The state knew what it was doing. Folks were being paid off. Folks were in on it. You weren’t though. Someone, along the line saw an opportunity and seized it and the town got played. Never underestimate the purpose of bureaucracy…it’ s to preserve and grow itself. How could anyone support the increasing growth of self interested ‘crats over the towns people.Report