Impeachment Day


Andrew Donaldson

Born and raised in West Virginia, Andrew has since lived and traveled around the world several times over. Though frequently writing about politics out of a sense of duty and love of country, most of the time he would prefer discussions on history, culture, occasionally nerding on aviation, and his amateur foodie tendencies. He can usually be found misspelling/misusing words on Twitter @four4thefire and his writing website

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  1. Avatar Oscar Gordon says:

    Impeachment Day! Seriously, it should be a holiday. In the Spring after the start of the second year of every presidential term, we all take a break, have cookouts, and vote on whether or not the House should draw up articles of impeachment against the sitting president. We’ll leave it up to the house as to what to impeach for, but impeach they must (Constitutional Duty and all that).Report

    • Avatar Marchmaine in reply to Oscar Gordon says:

      I propose May 15th.

      Do we have any holidays in May? I’m drawing a blank… Memorial day at the end of the month? So, this would give us two. Although, April could use a little help too.

      While dancing around the Impeachment Maypole, we could have two effigies: one for the President and one for the Speaker of the House. At the end of the penultimate dance, one of them goes into the fire. Then we dance the appropriate final celebratory dance. Not that I’ve thought about this much…Report

      • Avatar Oscar Gordon in reply to Marchmaine says:

        March or April. They kinda share Easter, but that’s it.Report

        • Avatar Marchmaine in reply to Oscar Gordon says:

          For fun and solidarity with various religious traditions, we could make our first variable lunar based national holiday such that it always lands one or two weeks after Easter. Which Easter and when Passover?… well, welcome to the family.Report

      • Avatar Chip Daniels in reply to Marchmaine says:

        Remember, remember eighteen December, collusion treason and plot!Report

        • Avatar Marchmaine in reply to Chip Daniels says:

          Well, if you’re trying to make a case for Impeachment day to happen during the mini-Lent of Advent, a time of vigilant waiting and contemplation… I could be persuaded. I suppose the liturgical structure would have to be different than the Maypole Impeachment festival, but I’m up to the challenge… like, we kick-off a season of scrutiny 4 Mondays before Impeachment day – let’s pick the first Monday after Christmas – that starts with 2 weeks of hearings, 1 week of gratitude for our Republic, followed by a final week of vigilance and a big reveal on Impeachment Monday?

          Hard to chose, really.Report

        • Avatar LeeEsq in reply to Chip Daniels says:

          But I can’t figure a reason why Donald Trump’s treason should ever be forgot.Report

  2. Resignation prior to impeachment in 1974. An impeachment in 1998. And now an impeachment in 2019. One every other decade for the past 40 years. Despite two centuries prior where we only had one impeachment. I wonder what this means for the health of our fragile republic. There have obviously been intense phases of corruption, partisanship, and even civil war in our history. But in a way, they were all dealt with somehow. This present strain lasting decades seems endemic to the system, baked in with gerrymandering, information echo chambers, and extremely disheartening rationalizations for callousness toward the weakest people – not just politics. Report

    • Avatar Chip Daniels in reply to michaeljdavis24 says:

      But I also have become aware of how rose-tinted and heavily varnished our understanding of America’s past has been.

      For example we are appalled at the treatment of immigrants, ripping families apart and caging children; but this and worse was done for decades to Native families, with the overwhelming approval of the American people.

      Ethnic cleansing, horrific violence and massacres have never been absent from the American experience. Its just that now we are seeing it up close and personal.

      The hopeful takeaway for me is that we struggled and overcame those episodes- and we will overcome this one too.Report

  3. Avatar Jaybird says:

    I was told that Politico was one of the good ones that was worth quoting so… here:


    • Avatar InMD in reply to Jaybird says:

      Isn’t there some Macbeth thing that’s applicable? If it were done twere well it were done quickly?

      Smarter people than me have decided this is the right move. But since we all know the ultimate outcome seems better to let people vote their conscience then hope the good ol’ American attention span takes care of any negative impact on the election.Report

      • Avatar PD Shaw in reply to InMD says:

        There’s also this bit from the Federalist Papers, responding to the argument that the Senate is an unfit body for trial, and a national committee would be better:

        “The [alternative] will be espoused with caution by those who will seriously consider the difficulty of collecting men dispersed over the whole Union; the injury to the innocent, from the procrastinated determination of the charges which might be brought against them; the advantage to the guilty, from the opportunities which delay would afford to intrigue and corruption; and in some cases the detriment to the State, from the prolonged inaction of men whose firm and faithful execution of their duty might have exposed them to the persecution of an intemperate or designing majority in the House of Representatives.”

        — PubliusReport

      • Avatar George Turner in reply to InMD says:

        I think the Democrats find that this attempt to rig an election won’t be forgotten for a couple decades.Report

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  5. Avatar George Turner says:

    I assume the Republicans who didn’t vote had more pressing business to attend to, such as a veterinarian appointment or something.Report

  6. Avatar Jaybird says:

    “What about the other article?”, I hear you ask. I dunno! It sounds like Pelosi already gaveled the sesh so… we’re going to vote on those tomorrow?Report

  7. Avatar George Turner says:

    There’s talk that the Nancy might “withhold” the articles of impeachment unless the Senate agrees to a bunch of conditions. I think that would be an excellent way to push GOP fundraising and polling even higher, especially among moderates and independents. I’m also not sure that Devin Nunes couldn’t walk his copy over to the Senate and say “Here ya go.”

    It’s telling that in the post-vote press interviews, the Democrats have been sad and upset and the Republicans have been fired up and jubilant. I have yet to find a conservative commenter who thinks this is a bad thing, other than what it shows about modern Democrat politicians. I doubt many will be able to resist referring to Trump as “impeached” during their re-election campaigns, and I think that will backfire badly, especially in battleground states, because they never even tried to make the process look either fair, sane, or non-partisan. A typical view seems to be “Pelosi is wearing all black on impeachment day and says she ‘feels sad’. Understandable. She’s attending her party’s funeral.

    I’ve seen interviews with people who didn’t vote for Trump but who are quite upset that the Democrats want to undo the last election and rig the next one. That feeling is likely similar to all the Remainers and Labour voters who just voted Conservative because they were ticked off at a Parliament that seemed determined to ignore the votes of the people. For such people, who may have been sitting on the fence, throwing out the term “impeached President” might just push their buttons.Report

    • Avatar Philip H in reply to George Turner says:

      oh knock it off. That whole fairness thing is a big lie and you know it. Republicans sat in the room for every committee hearing that was held, both the closed and public ones. They were given equal time by their Democratic colleagues to question witnesses -most chose to rant and ramble. When the White House ordered underlings to defy subpoenas – underlings that Republicans claim would exonerate the President no less – Republicans sat on their hands instead of meeting with the White House and getting the President to participate. And the most recent statements by Mitch McConnell are that he intends to not actually run a trial with witnesses at all.

      But sure, the Democrats are the only ones doing the nasty here.

      And while we are at it, I seem to vaguely remember you ranting before the midterm elections about how Democrats were going to loose more seats. Didn’t work out that way, so your prognostications regarding electoral politics are at best suspect.Report

  8. Avatar North says:

    A lot fewer defections than I hoped/feared on the respective sides.Report

  9. Avatar Jaybird says:

    Does Cenk Uygur have an opinion on this particular situation? Why, yes! He does!