AG Barr: Epstein Death “Perfect Storm of Screw-ups”

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Andrew Donaldson

Born and raised in West Virginia, Andrew has since lived and traveled around the world several times over. Though frequently writing about politics out of a sense of duty and love of country, most of the time he would prefer discussions on history, culture, occasionally nerding on aviation, and his amateur foodie tendencies. He can usually be found misspelling/misusing words on Twitter @four4thefire.

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  1. Avatar Saul Degraw
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    The problem with Occam’s Razor is that it is very boring. I have never been one for conspiracy theories. It seems to me that the really complicated ones would require so many people to maintain silence. Have conspiracy theorists ever met people? We love to gab. It makes more sense that thousands of people worked very hard to get people unto the moon than dozes/hundreds/thousands maintained a decades long silence that we faked it.

    Humans generally fuck-up a lot. I am not surprised that Epstein’s suicide was the product of a bunch of random screw-ups coming into concert with each other and giving Epstein a window of opportunity to commit suicide. Yet this is psychologically unsatisfying and perhaps distressing for many people. Narrative is more interesting and provides catharsis. A perfect storm of screw-ups makes us wrestle with the fact that a lot of life might just be random chaos.Report

  2. Avatar Chip Daniels
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    Posted over at Balloon Juice, shortly after my last comment
    https://www.balloon-juice.com/2019/11/22/the-noble-duke-of-york/

    “After a terrible interview with the BBC where he claimed that he liked to fly in Epstein’s private jet but he didn’t actually fuck any young girls, blah blah lie blah, his mom the Queen sacked him, and polite society is shunning him.”

    Apparently at least one person is facing an infinitesimal amount of consequences for their behavior.Report

  3. Avatar Michael Siegel
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    I don’t think he was murdered. But I do like seeing some of his rich and famous friends squirm.Report

  4. Avatar Burt Likko
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    Every facet of this story has looked suspicious from the beginning. People could readily see the convenience of his death. Some people were inevitably going to reach conspiracy theories. The fact is, we live in an age where nearly everything is explainable by a conspiracy theory. Every politically significant event, anyway. I don’t know what there is to do about it. Nothing, probably.

    Do we try to regulate this sort of thing? I don’t think we can, consistent with freedom of speech. Do we even want to? No. The fact is, sometimes there is value in complex theories that mostly get it wildly wrong.

    Keeping our values paramount over our social sanity is a huge challenge. I don’t have any solutions to offer. Legal issues are going to trump almost every idea. Lots of people are going to be exposed to lots of weird thinking as a result.

    However, we can hope. I do think that people can be encouraged to start using critical thinking skills. Maybe if we get some forceful statements from our leaders to that effect it would help. Some people will never be convinced in this case, precisely because the death was so convenient. Eventually, though, we’re going to have to come to terms with the phenomenon. Leaving conspiracy theories out there unchallenged, as we’ve seen, simply allows them to blossom and metastasize. Far better that, as here, even flawed messengers deliver direct refutations so that these destructive ideas don’t go unchallenged.Report

  5. Avatar Chip Daniels
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    Maybe we need a Victims’ Commissioner.

    “The Victims’ Commissioner is demanding that the Metropolitan Police explain its decision not to pursue a full investigation into claims a teenager was trafficked to the UK to have sex with Prince Andrew.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/23/metropolitan-police-faces-new-questions-trafficked-teen-prince-andrew-panoramaReport

  6. Avatar Damon
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    Why am I suspicious of the “official story”.

    The Gulf of Tonkin
    The US Liberty “incident”
    Iran Contra
    All the shitty stuff the us has done internationally in supporting oppressive gov’ts while talking world peace at the UN
    The Japanese Internment during WW2
    The shady stuff Roosevelt did to get us into WW2 while lying about staying out on the campaign trail.
    ………Report

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