Daniel Pantaleo Has Been Fired

Sam Wilkinson

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  1. Mark says:

    If you don’t do anything wrong, you shouldn’t lose your job.
    If you do something wrong and it leads to a death, getting fired is a trivial sanction.
    What conclusions should be drawn from this firing other than the people in charge are incompetent?Report

    • Jaybird in reply to Mark says:

      What conclusions should be drawn from this firing other than the people in charge are incompetent?

      Sounds to me like they’re fairly competent.
      The police union does good work. (Though, apparently, some stuff even they can’t protect against.)Report

  2. Chip Daniels says:

    In contrast, some good news from California:

    Newsom signs ‘Stephon Clark’s Law,’ setting new rules on police use of force


    • James K in reply to Chip Daniels says:

      from the article:

      In large urban law enforcement departments that already train for deescalation and crisis intervention, day-to-day policing will probably not noticeably change.

      So only in large urban areas are police trained in actual policing? That explains a lot.Report

    • DensityDuck in reply to Chip Daniels says:

      “Language requiring deescalation and a definition of what “necessary” force means were removed”

      womp womp

      they won’t even have to change the script except to scribble out “reasonable” and write in “necessary”Report

  3. Jaybird says:

    Tomorrow’s post: Daniel Pantaleo Has Been Re-Hired By Neighboring PrecinctReport

    • DensityDuck in reply to Jaybird says:

      It *is* interesting that he actually got Fired fired, not just “agreed to leave the department in exchange for no entry in his permanent record” fired.

      Of course, there’s still a lengthy appeal to work through, and having been thrown a bone the mob may find their hunger satiated. So maybe everyone can come out a winner!Report

    • Oscar Gordon in reply to Jaybird says:

      Yeah, if the firing doesn’t also strip away his credentials, it’s really just a layoff.Report

      • CJColucci in reply to Oscar Gordon says:

        What “credentials” are you talking about? It’s not as though there is some sort of Cop License that makes you eligible for hiring elsewhere, or, more to the point, the lack of which makes you ineligible to be hired elsewhere. If some other jurisdiction wants to take the political heat — and there are probably some jurisdictions where his conduct would be regarded as a feature rather than a bug — it can hire him.Report

        • Mike Schilling in reply to CJColucci says:

          In the private sector, having failed in a way that costs your employer public embarrassment and a ton of money can be a detriment to finding a new job. Below the C-suite level, anyway.Report

    • Tom Payne in reply to Jaybird says:

      Taking your comment literally, in New York City you are assigned to a particular precinct, but your actual employer is the NYPD. Therefore, he wouldn’t be able to be hired as a police officer anywhere in NYC. Having said that, if some town on Long Island, or upstate, or in New Jersey wants to take the heat, they could hire him tomorrow.Report

  4. Tom Payne says:

    {Ed Note: Tom Payne is a banned commenter}

  5. Philip H in reply to Tom Payne says:

    Actually, failed capitalistic economic led to Garner’s death, in as much as selling loose cigarettes is a “prohibited” economic activity and one of the few he could apparently engage in. His size was not a factor until the Office applied said chokehold to subdue him for trying to be entrepreneurial.Report