Symposium: Contributor’s Democratic Primary Endorsements

Andrew Donaldson

Born and raised in West Virginia, Andrew has since lived and traveled around the world several times over. Though frequently writing about politics out of a sense of duty and love of country, most of the time he would prefer discussions on history, culture, occasionally nerding on aviation, and his amateur foodie tendencies. He can usually be found misspelling/misusing words on Twitter @four4thefire and his writing website Yonder and Home. Andrew is the host of Heard Tell podcast.

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  1. Jaybird says:

    One of the biggest crazy-making experiences I have every four years or so (and have had for more than two decades) is to look at the current occupant of the White House and think “holy crap, the other guys are absolutely going to *SLAUGHTER* these guys!”

    And then, as “Generic Opposition” coalesces into “John Jackson vs. Jack Johnson” in the primary, I think “this was avoidable”.

    I look at Trump and think “holy crap, the opposition is going to *SLAUGHTER* him in 2020!”

    I look forward to reading the essays about those who actually coalesced. (And writing a couple.)Report

  2. Chip Daniels says:

    Given that somewhere around 40% of America thinks Trump is doing fine, I don’t see a slaughter of any kind happening.
    In fact, I don’t think the conventional political wisdom applies anymore.

    The closest parallel I can think of are the religious wars like in Northern Ireland during the Troubles, or Europe during the 16th-18th centuries, when every issue no matter how large or small was refracted through the lens of Protestant/ Catholic power struggle.

    Except today it is White Supremacy versus multiculturalism.Report

    • Jaybird in reply to Chip Daniels says:

      One question I asked the other day and didn’t get an answer to… I’ll ask it again:

      For example… according to your definition of “multiculture”, is The World Pavilion at EPCOT multicultural?

      According to my definition, it is not. It is Unicultural.

      Is it multicultural according to your definition?Report

      • Chip Daniels in reply to Jaybird says:

        The “food and festival” multiculturalism is one form of it, yes.

        What do you mean by “Unicultural”?Report

        • Jaybird in reply to Chip Daniels says:

          By “Unicultural”, in this case, I mean “DISNEY”.

          For what it’s worth, I think that “food and festival” multiculturalism is not opposed to white supremacy at all.

          It’s a particularly subtle version of it.Report

          • Chip Daniels in reply to Jaybird says:

            F&F multiculturalism CAN be comfortably aligned with white supremacy, but isn’t necessarily the same.

            Like, how Star Trek was multicultural, but insisted on having the farm boy from Iowa as the “unchecked category” the default human while everyone else was an exotic oddity.

            But F&F is the first step, away from absolute intolerance. After tolerating the existence of exotic oddities, the next step of multiculturalism is to see oneself as merely one of many equal types.

            Which is where we are now. Most Trumpists are comfortable with F&F, but are uncomfortable with not being the dominant center.Report

      • Kazzy in reply to Jaybird says:

        You forgot the third F: Fabric.

        This arose from looking at school cultural fairs and patting ourselves on the back for nailing the Three Fs.

        America’s would be wearing an Uncle Sam costume, eating hot dogs, and launching fireworks. U-S-A!Report

    • George Turner in reply to Chip Daniels says:

      And yet there are the Democrats, the party of Jim Crow, running their slate of anti-busing white people (I worked with segregationists!), or ancestral slave owners like Kamala Harris, and some holdovers from the Spanish Empire, trying to take on an orange person with a Jewish family married to an immigrant whose name means “Melanin”.

      The only authentically diverse candidate the Democrats have is Tulsi Gabbard (She’s a HIndu Pacific Islander), and after she did well in the last debate all the uber-white folks at Google de-platformed her, which is why she’s suing Google for $50 million. In contrast, Trump made Nikki Haley (who is 100% Indian and who was raised Sikh) our UN ambassador.

      All of this is going to make the South Park theory quite amusing this time around.Report

    • Slade the Leveller in reply to Chip Daniels says:

      60-40 would be a pretty good slaughter, electorally.Report

  3. Road Scholar says:

    Huh. When and where and how did Will put out this symposium call? Was it in TSN and I just missed it? (You don’t see TSN on mobile unless you scroll way the hell down the page.)

    Doesn’t matter, I suppose. I don’t really have a solid favorite yet.Report

    • Saul Degraw in reply to Road Scholar says:

      There is an email thread.Report

    • Yeah, it was on the internal list. I also mentioned on Twitter who we had openings for.

      The way this unfolded was a bit unplanned. I put out an email to contributors giving them first shot at who they wanted to endorse. The idea then was that I was going to open it up to more people to fill other openings, and then in August people would start writing these things. Except people started writing them almost immediately and it was decided that we should do the bulk of these before the debates.

      We will have some after, though, if you’re interested.


  4. Road Scholar says:

    Nah, I meant the “email thread” Saul is referring to. I don’t get any emails from OT or anything so I have no idea what he’s talking about. I’ve been hanging out here for, idk… seven years? I sort of thought I was part of the gang but apparently I’m that kid you pretend to like but don’t invite to the fun stuff. Now my feelz are hurt.

    Edit: meant as reply to JaybirdReport

  5. Chip Daniels says:

    I’m not quite ready to declare yet, but it seems that a certain Ms. Warren has been reading my OT comments to gather ideas for her new Medium essay on international trade*:

    “I want to invest in American workers and to use our leverage to force other countries to raise the bar on everything from labor and environmental standards to anti-corruption rules to access to medicine to tax enforcement. If we raise the world’s standards to our level and American workers have the chance to compete fairly, they will thrive — and millions of people around the world will be better off too.”

    *C’mon- where else would she get these ideas?Report

    • North in reply to Chip Daniels says:

      It had to have been your OT comments otherwise she’d have just been shorter and written “I don’t want America to trade with any developing world nations nor trade with any first world nations that trade with developing world nations.”Report

  6. J_A says:

    Are we getting a Mayor Pete endorsement? That’s the one I’m waiting to readReport