Michael Cohen, Live and In Color


Andrew Donaldson

Born and raised in West Virginia, Andrew has since lived and traveled around the world several times over. Though frequently writing about politics out of a sense of duty and love of country, most of the time he would prefer discussions on history, culture, occasionally nerding on aviation, and his amateur foodie tendencies. He can usually be found misspelling/misusing words on Twitter @four4thefire and his writing website Yonderandhome.com

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  1. Avatar Oscar Gordon says:

    Gotta mention Gaetz, now that he’s started chewing on his foot.Report

  2. Avatar pillsy says:

    OT guest poster Matt “@RogueNotary” Johnson had this to say about it:

    It always amazes me how everyone in Congress has a law degree, but they question witnesses worse than a second-year associate who took a depositions workshop. Then I remember which of my law school classmates went into politics.


  3. Avatar DavidTC says:

    Welp, I guess someone’s convinced Cohen he’s not getting a pardon from Trump. Burn those bridges, Cohen!

    Although as much as I like to see someone revealing the private face of Trump, I do not actually think ‘racist comments’ and ‘faked a medical condition to get out of Vietnam’ are actually relevant to inform Congress of preemptively. The first is not a crime and the second, I believe, was pardoned like most draft dodging?

    Save those things for the tell-all, Cohen. Although it is somewhat nice he just made those statements under penalty of lying to Congress.Report

  4. Avatar North says:

    So far none of the stuff he’s dropped strikes me as anything that is going to move the needle in any significant way.Report

    • Avatar Brent F in reply to North says:

      Yeah, this is mostly a rehashing and confirmation of what most anti-Trump folks already believe and pro-Trump folks are inclined to disbelieve or ignore. Their are two things he can tangibly push the disparate threads of the scandal together on, he can link Trump himself to Roger Stone’s contact with Wikileaks and indicate motive by confirming that Trump was actively pushing his Russian business interests late in the campaign, which establishes a fairly plausible motive for Trump to get into bed with Russian interests in the first place.

      Now I believe its quite plausible that Wikileaks was serving as a Russian cut out for l’Affair Russe, as it fits the general pattern of Russian tradecraft and Wikileaks is credibly suspected of previously putting out there what Russian agents want to have released, but that’s in the realm of informed speculation, not tangibly demonstrated.

      But none of this is enough to convince people to move off their previously established positions on the matter. Its just another incremental step towards the end of this process.Report

      • Avatar North in reply to Brent F says:

        Agreed without reservation.Report

      • Avatar LeeEsq in reply to Brent F says:

        Cohen is providing documentation but you and North are right. The people who hate Trump and presume the worst are going to his Cohen’s testimony as very exciting confirmation of their beliefs. I’m inclined to agree with them. People who believe that there is nothing because they either support Trump or really don’t want to believe for other reasons are just going to yawn.Report

    • Avatar Saul Degraw in reply to North says:

      Considering that the GOP congresscritters seem to have gone out of their way to defend Trump and discredit Cohen, yeah.

      The GOP and some assorted leftier than thou types like HA HA Goodman and Michael Tracey have gone full on Trumpista and it will be a few decades before it calms down.Report

  5. Avatar Burt Likko says:

    I’m just going to note that Cohen’s testimony is describing many more things of a more serious nature, than the stuff that got Clinton impeached. Indeed, one could make a good case that this is worse than what wound up touching Nixon with respect to Watergate.Report

  6. Avatar Burt Likko says:

    Also I’d like to point out that the Republican swipes back at Cohen appear to take two forms.

    1. He’s a liar.

    Well, yes, that’s kind of the whole point.

    2. He’s bitter because he didn’t get a White House job.

    He’s a) losing his license to practice law, b) going to prison for three years, c) likely to get divorced, and d) likely to become a pariah upon re-gaining his freedom. That’s not the kind of price one pays in order to exact revenge for not getting a job one wants.

    What I’m not hearing from any Republican on the committee is “Trump didn’t do these things.” It’s all about Cohen being a bad guy.Report

  7. Avatar LeeEsq says:

    American and the United Kingdom are in the middle of hold my beer contest over inept politicians in power.Report

    • Avatar Brent F in reply to LeeEsq says:

      Canada managed to get unexpectedly get into that competition this week with the Prime Minister’s Office ineptly not taking no for an answer from the ex-Attorney General to the point they resigned from Cabinet and decided to spill the beans to Parliament.

      Its turning into a massive own goal that might bring down the government over something they could have easily left well enough alone and been fine on.Report

    • Avatar Michael Cain in reply to LeeEsq says:

      In the last couple of days, Macron (France) and Sánchez (Spain) have said they will oppose an Article 50 extension unless Parliament brings something new and constructive to the table. The EU Parliament’s Brexit coordinator has said he can’t envision a situation that would allow more than a couple of months extension (ie, not long enough for another referendum). Unnamed sources around the EU Council have said the real deadline is March 22, the last day of the next Council session — implying that the Council would not call an emergency session to consider last-minute UK requests.

      At this point, I have to give the nod to the UK politicians. The US side hasn’t put us in the position of “in 32 days we are going to crash the economy” yet.Report

  8. Avatar Jaybird says:

    I hope that this information gets filtered down to the lower-classes:


    • Avatar j r in reply to Jaybird says:

      No. It’s don’t involve your lawyer in ongoing criminal conspiracies.

      I’m also not sure what your concern is. Are there a lot of low-level criminals who have their won consigliere?Report

      • Avatar Jaybird in reply to j r says:

        Sure, we can make a big deal about how extraordinary this case is and shout it from the rooftops. Just so long as they have a reasonable doubt that they can talk to their public defender, that’ll be good enough for me.Report

      • Avatar dragonfrog in reply to j r says:

        There have occasionally been defence lawyers busted for sneaking narcotics into prisons and remand centres. Sneaking some meth into jail seems at least kind of “low-level criminal” compatible…Report