Ordinary World for 29 Oct 2018

Andrew Donaldson

Born and raised in West Virginia, Andrew has since lived and traveled around the world several times over. Though frequently writing about politics out of a sense of duty and love of country, most of the time he would prefer discussions on history, culture, occasionally nerding on aviation, and his amateur foodie tendencies. He can usually be found misspelling/misusing words on Twitter @four4thefire and his writing website Yonder and Home.

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  1. Saul Degraw says:

    The Atlantic’s Ian Bogost comes out against the “Look for the Helpers” meme that gets taken out during any tragedy.

    This paragraph stood out:

    Seen in this context, to extract and deploy “Look for the helpers” as sufficient relief for adults is perverse, if telling. Grown-ups sometimes feel as helpless as children, and on the internet, where this meme mostly proliferates, distressed social-media posts, futile emoji, and forlorn crowdfunding campaigns have taken the place of social and political action. Which isn’t to say that that sort of action is easy to carry out anymore. For a populace grappling with voter suppression, wealth inequality, and the threat of a police state, among other perils, it’s not always clear how citizens can effect change in their communities and their nation. Ironically, when adults cite “Look for the helpers,” they are saying something tragic, not hopeful: Grown-ups now feel so disenfranchised that they implicitly self-identify as young children.


  2. Oscar Gordon says:

    Tp3: I enjoy stoicism, but to the last point, it’s a bit too fatalistic. Think more of the prayer for serenity.Report

  3. Marchmaine says:

    [Tp5] Interesting that you bring-up Nietzsche here… approvingly? Nietzsche was the topic of conversation over *Hard* Root Beer (!) in front of the fire this past Saturday. We were discussing (possible) changes to some classes elevating Nietzsche to the realm of “religious” thinker given that despite having abandoned philosophy on philosophical grounds his philosophy is (inarguably, IMO) the dominant form of moral reasoning today. Of course, we were discussing it in the context of vaccinating young minds, and placing it in the context outlined in MacIntyre’s Three Rival Versions of Moral Enquiry. So, ymmv.

    The Hard Root Beer was surprisingly good, though the packaging suggested it might be closer to sassafras spiced mead?Report

    • Jaybird in reply to Marchmaine says:

      I’m going to need more information about the Hard Root Beer but I’m not sure that we can vaccinate young minds against it now that it is, as you say, the dominant form of moral reasoning today.

      His philosophy and religious thought is now something that needs to be surpassed.Report

      • Marchmaine in reply to Jaybird says:

        We had the “Big Brother” brand… it was very sweet with a slight malty bitter finish… but mostly sweet, like actual root beer – in fact ice cream would not have been out of the question. The thing it lacked was a really great mouthfeel from a stout… if it had the mouthfeel and the full frothy collar of a stout it would have been an improvement over actual root beer. As it was, it presented a little thin and slightly bitter… more like a flavored porter than lush new thing.

        Surpassing Nietzsche is an interesting way to put it; MacIntyre suggests perhaps subsuming Nietzsche in a greater narrative that exposes the problems of continuity from incontinuity and provides a synthesis of a better genealogy.

        But where MacIntyre was/is difficult for Christians (Thomists) to appreciate was precisely the need to surpass Nietzsche by subsuming him… understanding Narrative lest one becomes just another Narrative.

        But no need to take my inadequate summary, take a peek at Three Rival Versions and see how he puts it. (If you haven’t already).Report