Morning Ed: Crime (2018.01.23.T}


Will Truman

Will Truman is the Editor-in-Chief of Ordinary Times. He is also on Twitter.

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9 Responses

  1. Avatar Oscar Gordon says:

    Cr1: That’s actually a good state to experiment with that system.

    Cr4 & Cr6 demonstrate the difficulty of all this. Figuring out when a kid is caught in a lie that has runaway from them, and when a kid is telling the truth requires some work on the part of the adults in the room.

    Although Waldman should quantify that all encompassing ‘We”. I don’t know about the rest of you, but before the Indy Star story broke, I’d never even heard of USAG, much less Nassar. After that, it was certainly on my radar, but as with all such stories, demanding that ‘we’ all take notice of this horror and give it the attention the author feels it deserves is asking a lot of people whose attention is demanded for so many other horrors every day, and that is on top of the demands of just living.Report

  2. Avatar dragonfrog says:

    [Cr1] is a seemingly rare piece of good news – arrestees not being seen seen as sources of money to be squeezed as hard as possible. I hope it works out well.

    [Cr5] while the approach of testing the trauma of being a person guard is doubtless needed, it would be nice if there were also some attention paid to reforming the prison system so it is less inherently traumatizing.

    Presumably if it’s that bad for the guards, it’s worse still for the inmates. But nobody’s talking about how we must provide counseling and sorry for released prisoners PTSD. Just send them on out and wonder why recidivism is so high.Report

  3. Avatar PD Shaw says:

    [Cr1] It’s not clear whether eliminating bonds will make much difference. Right now, there are three options: (1) released on own recognizance; (2) released on bond; or (3) cannot be released. Eliminating the middle compromise, forces a choice between the other two. And I’m pretty sure rates of recidivism and failure to appear are going to strongly reflect socio-economic realities. The non-appearance rate in the U.S. is something like 25%, so it’s not like the current system is optimized anyway.

    I assume in other countries there are fewer Constitutional constraints to convictions in abstentia.Report

    • Avatar Saul Degraw says:


      I think the problem is that bond is also set unfairly. Poor minorities are often given really high bonds that don’t match their alleged crimes. White people, not as much. IIRC New Jersey’s reform was to force courts to do number 1 unless someone was a flight risk or committed a really violent crime.Report

      • Avatar PD Shaw says:

        The bond is a surety used to pay bounty hunter. If you reduce the number of people released, then the bounty hunter cost is reduced.

        Illinois just changed its laws:

        This new law makes several changes to the Bail process in Illinois. For one thing, this new law specifically states that a cash bail is not required for people who are being charged with a non-violent misdemeanor or a low level felony. The types of crimes that this refers to are theft, prostitution, and DUI’s. This new law provides that there should be a presumption that any bail set in cases like this should not be monetary. Instead of being required to post a cash bond, the court should first consider electronic home monitoring, orders of protection, curfews, drug and mental health treatment, and in-person reporting. If the court sets a cash bond, and the defendant is unable to post the cash, a rehearing must be held within 7 days. The presumption that the bail set in low-level crimes should not be cash, and the requirement that a bond re-hearing occur within 7 days if the cash is not posted, are major changes to the bail process in Illinois.


  4. Avatar Kolohe says:

    Doughnut-eating contest winner arrested again after doughnut shop robbery

    In 2014 he won a doughnut eating contest at the Elizabeth City Police Department National Night Out Against Crime event. He devoured eight glazed doughnuts in two minutes, according to reports at the time.

    But police had been looking for Hardison for months as a suspect in at least three break-ins going back to 2013. Now that he was a minor local celebrity for winning the contest, police were able to locate and arrest him. National media picked up the news.


  5. Avatar LeeEsq says:

    Cr4 besides what Waldman says, the audience for gymnastics like the audience for figure skating is really into the fantasy aspect of the sport. The advantage for figure skaters is that their audience doesn’t seem to mind adult figure skaters but the audience for female gymnastics seemingly as no use for female gymnasts in their mid to late teens or older. That makes most female gymnasts very young, vulnerable, and with an audience willing to look the other way and ignore anything they don’t like. Its the same with football audiences, who routinely ignore the hazing and the crimes committed by some football players. People can be wretched at times.Report

    • Avatar Kolohe says:

      I don’t think it’s the audience as much as it is the judging. As in, for whatever reason, the athletic performance that is considered superlative in women’s gymanistics is most readily done by persons between 13 and 17 years of age. (in contrast with say, the men’s gymastics competition, with more strength elements, so their bodies need a few more years to ‘optimize’)Report

  6. Avatar Pinky says:

    Cr9 – And the jury found her guilty anyway! That’s great stuff.Report