Neither Holy, Nor Roman


Mike Schilling

Mike has been a software engineer far longer than he would like to admit. He has strong opinions on baseball, software, science fiction, comedy, contract bridge, and European history, any of which he's willing to share with almost no prompting whatsoever.

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  1. Avatar Brent F says:

    4. Charles V, who was Charles I in Spain. Product of a dynastic moonshot inheritence that united the heritary lands of the Crowns of Aragon and Castile, the Duchy of Burgundy and Austrian dominions into one person. Realized the unwieldiness of his regime and split into Austrian and Spanish halfs for his successors and retired to monasty to promptly die.

    7. Fredrick I Barbarossa. Drowned in his armour in a Turkish river, leading the German and then largest component of the Third Crusade. Neither the Byzantines nor the Turks could beat him, but the river did.

    9. Charles VI. His pragmatic sanction was the inheritence of Maria Theresa. Another great German military leader named Fredrick had something to say about that,

    5. I think is Fredrick II, decendant of the Barbarossa Fredrick, but I’m not sure of the regnal title. Impressively cultured and liked being the King of Sciliy (quite the prize territory in those days) more than King of the Romans (Germans).

    I know the events referenced in 2, 6 and 10, but not the personalities or names.Report

    • Well done. 5, 7, and 9 are correct. 4 is not, but I suspect you meant it as the answer to a different clue,Report

    • Avatar J_A says:

      Funny factoid on the Pragmatic Sanction I wasn’t aware of until very recently

      At the end of WWI, Hungary did not (immediately) abolish the monarchy. They just overturned the Pragmatic Sanction, barred crown inheritance via female line, and thus barred all descendants of Maria Theresa (that is, every single living Hapsburg) from the Hungarian throne. Hungary continued to be a Kingdom-without a King- until 1946Report

      • Avatar LeeEsq says:

        That is partially true. The Hungarians were generally perfectly fine with the last Hapsburg being King of Hungary. The Allies were not. Since no faction could agree on a replacement King, Horthy was elected Regent.Report

  2. Avatar J_A says:

    #10 is Francis II, Marie Antoinette’s nephew, who surrendered the German Imperial crown in 1808 and became the first Emperor of Austria

    #2 is strange, because I think you are referring to the Defenestration of Prague, and the person involved would be the future Ferdinand II, who was already King of Bohemia. However, the Defenestration happened in 1618, a year before Ferdinand became Emperor. The them Emperor was Mathias, but he was (very old and) in principle supportive of the Protestant defenestrators, while the defenestrated were the representatives of the very Catholic already king, and future Emperor, Ferdinand

    #5 is Frederick II, who truly was one of the most interesting characters in history, and is impossible to do him justice in a blurb. Go Wikipedia him.Report

  3. Avatar Richard Hershberger says:

    1. Umm… Frederick I?Report

  4. Avatar J_A says:

    I think #1 might be Henry IV. I remember the episode, but not sure about the name. I think the pope was Alexander IIIReport

  5. Avatar Kolohe says:

    1-10. What is an inbred Hapsburg?

    (“Is there any other kind?”)

    (Actually I think the Revolutions podcast mentioned that the family miscalculated on the election once or twice in the multi-century run. But always got back in the next one)Report

    • Avatar LeeEsq says:

      The Stupir Mundi was Hohenstaufen. Same with many of the others.Report

      • Avatar Kolohe says:

        He was smarter than the Hapsburgs of his generation, at least.Report

        • Avatar J_A says:

          There were no Hapsburgs (worth mentioning) in his generation

          Though, funny fact. The evil ruler of William Tell is supposed to be the gopher of (then still) minor Hapsburg feudal lords in Western SwitzerlandReport

          • Avatar LeeEsq says:

            The first Hapsburg Holy Roman Emperor was Rudolph in the late 13th century. He was picked because of his obscurity. To this day, school children sing about Rudolph the Red Nosed Emperor in Austria. They didn’t secure the throne permanently until Maximillian I.Report

      • Avatar Brent F says:

        There are at least 2 Hohenstaufens, 1 Welf, 1 Luxembourg and one Saxon Ottonian on the list, so not even a majority of them are Hapsburgs, inbred or otherwise.Report

    • Avatar J_A says:

      As Hapsburg inbreeding goes, Francis II was fairly outbreeded. He had sixteen distinct great-great-grandparents, and most of those were not first cousins to each other.Report

  6. Avatar Oscar Gordon says:

    This one is for my wife (her being the European history major). I’m seriously impressed any of you can pull this stuff out of your heads. I can’t keep the various European heads of state and church straight without a program, too many rulers, not enough names.Report

  7. Avatar Brent F says:

    4. Refers to the comeback the Emperor made to a priest to corrected his bad Latin grammar at an important council, one dealing with Jan Hus’s heresey. I don’t remember his name but he would be one of the Luxembourg emperors.

    6. Refers to one of the later Saxon dynasty emperors, one of the many Ottos and not the first or the second Otto. The marriage of a Byzantine princess to the heir of the Saxon line was a big diplomatic event in the 10th century, and I believe she reigned as regent for her infant son for a time.Report

  8. To recap,:

    Brent : 3, 5, 7, and 9.

    JA: 1, 2, and 10

    4, 6, and 8 are still open.Report

  9. Avatar bookdragon says:

    Can’t remember the real name for #4, only that he got tagged ‘Super Grammaticam’ because of that

    #8: Otto #?, son of Henry the Lion – only Welf to be Holy Roman Emperor and double crossed the popeReport

  10. Final score:

    Brent wins: 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 9.

    JA: 1, 2, and 10

    bookdragon: 8

    Impressive knowledge on everyone’s part. Thanks for playing.Report