Did I Kill Gawker?


Will Truman

Will Truman is the Editor-in-Chief of Ordinary Times. He is also on Twitter.

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  1. Avatar Autolukos says:

    Mostly #4, tbh, with an honorable mention for the lawyers who prepped him for the deposition.Report

  2. Avatar Dark Matter says:

    It’s possible Hogan was willing to face a jury because he’d managed to get the case tried in his hometown, where he enjoyed status as a local hero. Or maybe he was willing (or obligated) to risk trial because someone else was bankrolling his legal team.

    Or maybe Hogan was a multimillionaire who was out for revenge and didn’t really care about the money, just exactly like the billionaire who was out for revenge and didn’t care about the money.

    My expectation is Thiel didn’t fund only Hogan, he probably funded *everyone* he could get his hands on who he figured had a shot. Some settled, Hogan was out for blood.Report

    • Avatar DensityDuck in reply to Dark Matter says:

      The billionaire (gay man) who was out for revenge (for having an utterly personal fact posted without his permission and against his express request) and didn’t care about the money (because he was fortunate enough to have some, unlike most other people who get doxxed.)

      But hey keep telling us how this is just a rich guy who was, as it were, butthurt.Report

  3. Avatar b-psycho says:

    I’m a believer that true journalism inherently involves revealing things that people do not want revealed. But my interpretation of that leads to things like, say, foreign policy memos, or secretive trade proposals; details of surveillance operations or shady quid pro quo type big business/big government relations — not Who So’nSo relatively famous but otherwise not in control of anybody is fishing.

    Thus, pox on Gawker & on Thiel. The former wasted effort on crap that doesn’t matter & tripped over their own feet, the latter deserves to get taken down on things that *actually effect people* like his cooperation with the surveillance state. I could give half a crap Peter’s sexual preferences, I care that he seeks so much as a dollar off of aiding a spying apparatus that needs to be burned to the ground in the name of basic liberty.Report

    • Avatar Murali in reply to b-psycho says:

      Here’s the thing. Gawker’s outing of Thiel didn’t hurt him because of people like you. Instead, it hurt him because of people who are in some ways the opposite: They care a lot about his sexual orientation, but less so about his involvement with the surveillance state. These people exist and Gawker’s outing of Thiel plausibly violated one of his basic rights. Perhaps there is a karmic element to this. Thiel helps the USG violate people’s privacy and his privacy gets violated. Gawker violates Thiel’s and Hogan’s and lots of other peoples’ privacy and they go bankrupt.Report

    • Avatar Saul Degraw in reply to b-psycho says:


      This is my position. I dislike Thiel’s crusade but I did not like Gawker’s tone and snark for the sake of snark and snide for the sake of snide as snide.

      Yet somehow this makes me a Thiel supporter to some.Report

      • Avatar Stillwater in reply to Saul Degraw says:

        Yet somehow this makes me a Thiel supporter to some.

        Viewing Gawker’s behavior during the Hogan case as snarky and snide doesn’t make you a Thiel supporter, but viewing Gawker’s behavior in outing Thiel’s sexual orientation as craven certainly does.

        Likewise, viewing Thiel’s behavior during the Hogan case as opportunistic doesn’t make you a Gawker supporter, but denying that Gawker’s behavior in posting the Hogan sex tape was craven certainly does.Report

        • Avatar DensityDuck in reply to Stillwater says:

          ah-heh. Supporting the idea that people shouldn’t be outed without their consent no more makes me a Thiel supporter than supporting standup comedy makes you a Cosby supporter.Report

  4. Avatar Damon says:

    Well, he wrote it…

    He gets a large chunk of the blame.

    I will not miss gawker…*spits on the grave*Report

  5. I shouted out “Who killed the reprobates?”
    When after all it was you and me.