BLINDED TRIALS: Turn down the flame, Bernie supporters
Supporters of Bernie Sanders, you have some work ahead of you.
I am not referring to the long odds you face in the delegate math on the way toward getting your candidate nominated. I’m talking about what you’ll need to do if you manage to pull it off.
This past weekend I had the privilege of serving as a delegate at the Maine Democratic Convention. (I obviously did so using my real name.) I was there in support of Hillary Clinton. However, like most Clinton supporters, I went into the convention fully prepared to support her opponent if he ends up with the nomination.
While what happened there didn’t change my mind about how I might vote in November, it sure made the climb there steeper.
Sanders supporters booed, heckled, harassed, and persistently shouted down voices speaking against positions they preferred or in support (perceived or otherwise) of Clinton. For a voter who does not yet #FeelTheBern, it made me want to put on flame-retardant clothing.
From: Turn down the flame, Bernie supporters – Blinded Trials II
If you can’t stand how the sausage is made, stay out of the kitchen. Democracy is at work here.Report
Perhaps they should wear tri corner hats and bring guns to be treated like good citizens.Report
And spit on some on pro-Clinton congressmen.Report
I believe the right haberdashery is always important in politics.Report
If you want to go back to the good old days, let’s have a rally where the candidate pays for a bbq and lot’s of booze. We can all sell our votes to him for cash.
I’d vote for bernie for cash. Think he’ll caught up 25k?Report
Meh, they should let their flame burn brightly.Report
The wacky thing about the whole “conservative vs. progressive” thing is that it has nothing to do with any given position but with a qualitative relationship between two positions and also a mindset that might as well be phrased as “pragmatic vs. religious”.
Today, Hillary is the conservative in the room.
Bernie is the progressive.
If you’re into watching fighting stances change (and who isn’t?), we’ll be able to watch Hillary shift her fighting stance when she is no longer the assumed conservative one.Report
Sanders supporters (especially the hard core that are still seeing the tea leaves of victory) seem to be big supporters on ‘purity’.
They don’t like to see the sausage made, they don’t like the sausage at all, they want to burn the factory to the ground and get steaks please. And what’s standing between them and pure, 100%, USDA grade-A beef is apparently HRC. Who i guess owns the sausage factory? Or works there?
I dunno. The metaphor got away from me a bit.Report
Hillary, sad to say, isn’t actually putting people in the sausage… yet.
That comes after the election.Report
Yes, I know. She’s literally the worst person on the planet and possibly the Anti-christ AND also personally murders puppies.
We get your dislike.Report
Don’t forget the kittens! She kills them too!Report
Everytime you make an Americano, G-d kills a kitten.Report
Trump! To save the kittens.
(or were you talking about the drink?)Report
The drink, of course. My gaggia manual would be banned by legal if it was written by an American company.Report
I haven’t heard of anyone who personally murders puppies.
Making children into factories for the express purpose of producing various biochemicals — yes [and this is the edited version of that story. Listen to a few too many Private Investigator tales, and you learn to have a strong stomach].
Murdering puppies? no.
In other news, Hillary Clinton is not the worst person on the planet. But perhaps you should talk to the people who hired her?
It will be most amusing to watch the left talk themselves into rhetorical pretzels about Hillary’s antics once she is “in charge”. (seriously, that was all I was saying! — well, that and there really are hotdogs you can buy that have human in them)Report
Needs more bacon.Report
Kale.
Kale for the bitternessReport
@morat20
I think that is unfair to Sanders supporters in a way that unduly buys into the Clinton branding. Sanders and Clinton are campaigning on two fairly different sets of ideas. Hillary wants to make marginally progressive changes to the status quo and Bernie wants to move us significantly closer to an explicitly social democratic model.
Hillary and her supporters want to pretend that she is just as progressive as Bernie, just more pragmatic in how to get there. That’s possible, but unlikely. It’s perfectly reasonable to be a center-left Democrat who wants to shore uo the safety net and regulatory regime and the like without making a drastic lurch to the left, but that’s not what Sanders and his supporters want.
In other words, Sanders supporters don’t want more sausage. They want locally-sourced, free range kale patties of known provenance, raised in an atmosphere conducive to the fullest expression of the farm workers’ gender and ethnic justice struggles. And unicorns. If you want to make fun of them for wanting that stuff, I’m fully supportive. But it’s disingenuous to call then unreasonable for not wanting to settle for Hillary’s sausage.Report
Sanders supporters are the fragment of the Democratic electorate not down with the criminal element in the Democratic Party.Report
The thing is, I’m fine if they don’t want to settle because Hillary isn’t progressive enough for them.
I’m not OK with them acting like the game is rigged when the rules for each state have been out there since the last Presidential election, at the very least (to my memory, no state has changed from a caucus to a primary or changed up their registration rules recently and if any did, they were probably all more favorable to getting more people to vote).
Hillary & Bernie ran under the same rules and in pledged delegates, she is going to win. Simple as that.Report