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Burt Likko

Pseudonymous Portlander. Homebrewer. Atheist. Recovering Republican. Recovering Catholic. Recovering divorcé. Editor-in-Chief Emeritus of Ordinary Times. Relapsed Lawyer, admitted to practice law (under his real name) in California and Oregon. On Twitter, to his frequent regret, at @burtlikko. House Likko's Words: Scite Verum. Colite Iusticia. Vivere Con Gaudium.

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72 Responses

  1. Avatar Michael Drew
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    Thanks for this, Chief.Report

  2. Avatar KenB
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    FWIW — I just experimented with reporting a comment (MD’s, above) and noticed that there’s no confirmation dialogbox nor any obvious way to undo it.Report

  3. Avatar Don Zeko
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    This post is a nice illustration of why I hope that your efforts to become a judge are successful.Report

    • Avatar Burt Likko in reply to Don Zeko
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      Thank you and I very much appreciate the well wishes for my career ambitions.

      But don’t give me too much credit. I had a lot of help and input from the other editors, and @will-truman is the one who’s done the more technical work.Report

  4. Avatar DensityDuck
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    another suggestion: Stop using “but he was mean first” as a justification for being mean.Report

  5. Avatar Bad Commenter
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    This is a bad comment and someone should report it.Report

  6. Avatar Francis
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    I would like to extend my apologies to the community for losing my cool and acting unprofessionally.

    I’m sorry. I misbehaved.Report

  7. Avatar Bad Commenter
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    This is also a bad comment and worthy of being reported.Report

  8. Avatar notme
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    I love the Indian head test pattern, it’s a classic.Report

  9. Avatar Michael Cain
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    You must be logged in to use the feature.

    Could you say a few more words about this? One of the interesting things about OT (at least to me) has always been that the commentariat is remarkably well behaved for a community that doesn’t require readers to be registered. Or does logged in mean something different here?Report

  10. Avatar aaron david
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    Well done, Overcounselor Likko!Report

  11. Avatar Will Truman
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    Everybody please do me a favor and Report “Bad Commenter”s comments. I need to test a couple of things.Report

  12. Avatar Bad Commenter
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    This is one last bad comment. Please report this! It’s bad! Bad! Bad!Report

  13. Avatar Dand
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    I think I caused, I apologize I should have kept my cool.Report

  14. Avatar Alan Scott
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    Huzzah for this. And let me say how happy I am that the technical changes being made to the site are finally under the control of people interested in maintaining OT as a respectful community. It shouldn’t have taken until April 2016 for this feature to be implemented.Report

  15. Avatar Kazzy
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    Excellent efforts, Burt and Will.Report

  16. Avatar KarelEtc
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    I reported the last ‘bad comment’ and got a nice checkmark. Great ‘hacking.’
    However, after reloading the page, as a test, neither checkmark or the report button was visible. Not sure this is the intended effect.Report

  17. Avatar Dand
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    Any chance you could make it possible to unflag a post or at least move the flag button so it’s not so close to the quote button?Report

    • Avatar Will Truman in reply to Dand
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      Unfortunately not yet. Since something out there will offend just about everybody, it takes more than one click for a comment to get pulled. So hopefully that will not be a recurring problem. I hope to be able to dive in at some point in the future and be able to set the button apart or do something to make it stand point.Report

    • Avatar Maribou in reply to Dand
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      @dand Seems like a good place to remind folks that if errors are made, one could write the editors and tell us “wait wait I didn’t mean to flag such-and-such comment.”

      Not perfect, but a better-than-nothing patch perhaps?Report

  18. Avatar Marchmaine
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    Reporting is fine, by why stop there? Feature Request:

    [Report]
    [Duel]
    [Dance Off!]
    [Drink!]
    [Pun]
    [Banned] see aboveReport

  19. Avatar Gabriel Conroy
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    But actually endorsing the Blood Libel, actually calling someone the “n-word,” or actually stating that homosexuals are by definition mentally ill, are all very likely to be considered intolerably disrespectful. Again, these are illustrative examples and are in no way intended to exhaust or limit what will be deemed intolerably disrespectful; this post is also intended to be a restatement of the commenting policy, and not a revision of it.

    So just to be clear, you’re changing the commenting policy to say the blood libel, n-word, and calling homosexuals mentally ill are the only things that violate the comment policy? 🙂

    I’ve lost my cool at least a few times and shouldn’t have. So I apologize. While I’ll probably do it again, I’ll try not to.

    To be honest, most of the time when I’ve written a comment that I’ve come to regret, there’s usually a little eudaimon inside me that says, “I know it will feel good right when you say what you’re about to say, but in an hour or so, you’ll start to regret it.” The more I listen to that eudaimon, the more civil my comments have become. Also, the happier. After the initial flush of “I must get back at that person” subsides, I can go on my merry way and just leave certain things be and live my life.

    Glyph had a comment a while ago about civility that I think is a very good supplement to the things Burt said in the OP: https://ordinary-times.com/2015/11/05/the-state-of-the-art/#comment-1090972Report

  20. Avatar Art Deco
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    I’m sure we all benefit from 2,000 words worth of humbug from you.Report

  21. Avatar Will Truman
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    I believe the logged-in/logged-out thing has been addressed.

    Can anyone (else) logged in let me know if Report is showing up for you?Report

  22. Avatar Dave
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    None of us enjoy calling people out for violating it, and we really don’t enjoy disciplining commenters…

    None of us? I’ve had my moments. 😉Report

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