Morning Ed: World {2016.04.25.M}

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Will Truman

Will Truman is the Editor-in-Chief of Ordinary Times. He is also on Twitter.

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  1. Avatar Damon says:

    Librarian: Nice. Best comment: “I believe Mr. Haidara deserves a Nobel Peace Prize, as a far more worthy candidate than the President of the USA….” QFT.

    Uber: Hmm..political counter by Uber to “onerous regulations” of it’s business or happy coincidence? You be the judge.

    Oz Ranch: I seem to recall something similar in terms of “panic” when the Japanese were buying up real estate on Hawaii.

    Tiers of citizenship: On the one hand, it’s totally up to the native population to decide who they want to let in or not, or how to structure it, but ” Branko Milanovic advocates that in order to fight global poverty, we should introduce explicit systems of differentiated citizenship”. I’m trying to understand WHY foreign poverty 1) is some other countries issue to resolve and 2) why this has to be solved by allowing these migrants into said country vs doing nothing or providing aide over there.Report

    • Avatar LeeEsq says:

      A lot of foreign policy was and is caused by the policies of developed nations, especially from the abuses of colonialism. Its sort of like thieves taking all of your money and wealth but not wanting to take any responsibility for the damage done to you.Report

      • Avatar Damon says:

        Of course. But, to offset the impact of meddling the first time, we’re going to meddle again?

        That makes sense.

        Of course your position presupposed that the foreign meddling was the direct cause of the current poverty doesn’t it?Report

        • Avatar LeeEsq says:

          Meddling again won’t work but taking a harsh stance against immigration or acting in our favor in a real politic way won’t work either. There is also no realistic way to stop meddling. Whether it is humanitarian or self-serving, there will be meddling. The reason why we have so many kids from Central America trying to get into the United States traces back to the Cold War and the War on Drugs.Report

        • Avatar LeeEsq says:

          Meddling again won’t work but taking a harsh stance against immigration or acting in our favor in a real politic way won’t work either. There is also no realistic way to stop meddling. Whether it is humanitarian or self-serving, there will be meddling. The reason why we have so many kids from Central America trying to get into the United States traces back to the Cold War and the War on Drugs.Report

          • Avatar Damon says:

            ” There is also no realistic way to stop meddling.”

            Of course there is. You trade with folks, that’s it. Total non intervention. Now, you may disagree with that idea, but you can certainly have a FP outlook that minimized our “international footprint”. Now, as to your specific point about drugs and central america, we could legalize drugs or we could tighten immigration, or both. It CAN be done, we choose not to.Report

            • Avatar Kim says:

              Damon,
              there is no realistic way to stop corporations from meddling. if they can’t get the government to do it, they’ll buy their own planes and tanks.Report

              • Avatar Damon says:

                Meddling corporations aren’t my point. And let’s say that Google decided to fuel air bomb some defenseless Australian town.

                1) Why is that the US gov’ts problem?

                2) Google would likely be violating US, OZ, and, probably, international laws, and could easily be prosecuted-for the act, for the possession of militarized aircraft, etc. by several political entities.Report

          • Avatar Kim says:

            My sources trace it back to The Mad Bomber

            but, hell, that fucks with your narrative, don’t it?Report

  2. Avatar Burt Likko says:

    Tiers of citizenship?
    Regional visas?

    Gonna have to amend the constitution for that. Gonna need a better argument than these to get me to agree to modifying bedrock principles like the right to travel throughout that nation and the equali protection of the law.Report

    • Avatar Will Truman says:

      Regional visas wouldn’t inhibit travel, it would just set residence parameters. If we can require immigrants to work for a particular company (or any sponsoring one), I suspect we can require them to maintain residence in a particular place, or any sponsoring place (as long as they have the freedom to roam and be a traveling salesman if they wish).

      The piece on differing citizenship was aimed more at Europe than us, but yeah for here that would require a change in the constitution.Report

    • Avatar LeeEsq says:

      @burt-likko. the United States technically does have tiers of citizenship even though we do not exactly refer to it that way. The United States government assumes that the end goal of any immigrant is citizenship. There isn’t really a straight forward path to citizenship many times though. Most aliens have to go through at least two or three types of status with different rights before they can become full citizens. You have non-citizen immigrants like people on student visas, O1s, and H1Bs, than you have people on immigrant visas that lead directly but not immediately to a green card most times, permanent residents, and after three or five years of permanent residency you can get naturalized. A person can start on a non-immigrant visa, go to another one, get an immigrant status, a green card, and finally citizenship. These are tiers of citizenship to an extent because the end assumption is that you will eventually naturalize.Report

      • Avatar Will Truman says:

        This is true, though most of that isn’t actually citizenship and ends after the first generation. The article is talking about something more enduring.Report

        • Avatar LeeEsq says:

          I know that and it would be a very bad idea for reasons that anybody who thinks about it a little could spell out. It would be creating a caste system that would lead to great discrepancies of wealth and power.Report

  3. Avatar Dand says:

    How is it that LGM can publish this:

    http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2016/04/jacobin-walking-on-the-fighting-side-of-me

    and this:

    http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2016/04/is-smugness-a-significant-causal-factor-in-american-politics-spoiler-no

    with in a day of each other?

    a love this bit:
    To state the obvious, if a large percentage of the white working class defected between 1948 and 1964, as Bouie says it’s pretty hard to argue that Jon Stewart and people saying mean things about Kim Davis on Twitter played a major causal role.

    As if Adli Stevenson was an elitist jerk (“you’re than thinking man’s candidate.” “But I need a majority”). Norman Rockwell politics were down the liberal but mid-century liberals hated him because he valorized the common man.Report

    • Avatar Autolukos says:

      I’m not familiar enough with LGM to comment on the details of their setup, but blogging platforms that can handle two different authors posting on two different subjects within that timeframe are fairly unremarkable.Report

    • Avatar LeeEsq says:

      The articles were complaining about two different things. The first post was criticizing a certain strain of leftist thought that insists that all entertainment needs to conform to a certain orthodoxy. This is called aesthetic Stalinism. Erik’s post never claimed that this line of thought is driving people away from liberal politics. It was simply that this is a very dumb way to look at art and entertainment. The second post is de-bunking the idea that more white people would vote for the Democratic Party if the Democratic Party was less smug.Report

    • Avatar Francis says:

      Unless you’ve been banned there, which takes some work, why don’t you comment there instead of here? Registration is not complicated.Report

  4. Avatar notme says:

    I can’t imagine why the Obama admin tried to bury this info.

    CDC Official Warned Staff of Health, Safety Risks During Influx of Illegal Alien Minors: “Plan on Many of the Kids Having TB,” “Be Wary of Personal Safety.”

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2016/04/cdc-official-warned-staff-of-health-safety-risks-during-influx-of-illegal-alien-minors-plan-on-many-of-the-kids-having-tb-be-wary-of-personal-safety/Report

  5. Avatar notme says:

    Will:

    Why down play the AQI attacks and call it “unrest”? It’s Islamic terrorism.Report