Apples To Apples (With No Applewhites)

Will Truman

Will Truman is the Editor-in-Chief of Ordinary Times. He is also on Twitter.

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8 Responses

  1. Kazzy says:

    Is he related to Pat Summitt?

    I recently heard about a coach who made a rule preventing her (I believe it was a her) female players from having “nonprofessional relationships”. Which is really poor and confusing wording. College players are by definition nonprofessional. And friendships are technically nonprofessional.

    To be honest, I can see the value in a ban on intrasquad dating… It could have a real effect on morale. But why is this rule being made by an individual coach instead of school wide by the AD?Report

  2. Will H. says:

    the student that Applewhite had sex with was not under him

    Stands to reason that who’s on top makes a huge difference in Texas.
    Also, the lights: off or on.

    In Illinois, it is a criminal offense for any teacher to have sex with a student, even at the collegiate level.
    Other states encourage that sort of thing, from what I understand.Report

    • Autolukos in reply to Will H. says:

      Standing, of course, is right out, given the distasteful activities that might ensueReport

    • Kazzy in reply to Will H. says:


      It is criminalfor an adult professor to have sex with an adult student? Is it considered rape?

      I can see why universities would want to prohibit this behavior. I could see why public universities might set these policies at the state level. But to make it criminal? Absent a specific complaint/victim, I’m really struggling with that.

      Then again, maybe some of my male privilege is showing through? Even though professor/student relationships are not limited to male professor/female student pairings…Report

      • Will H. in reply to Kazzy says:

        @kazzy Age and consent are irrelevant. It is essentially the leveraging of the power differential and quid pro quo which are criminalized. There is no way that could be entirely neglected in a relationship involving a teacher and student.
        It’s been that way since 1988.
        There are signs posted all over the place about it.Report

        • Kazzy in reply to Will H. says:


          Thanks for clarifying. That is interesting.

          I assume it is the professor who is guilty of the crime, yes?

          I fully recognize the potential for abuse and all that you mention. I just don’t think all of those are necessarily realized every time a professor and a student (and I’m thinking primarily of adult graduate students here) have a relationship. So to criminalize the behavior stands out to me.Report