Glyph is worse than some and better than others. He believes that life is just one damned thing after another, that only pop music can save us now, and that mercy is the mark of a great man (but he's just all right). Nothing he writes here should be taken as an indication that he knows anything about anything.

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  1. Avatar Richard Hershberger says:

    The classical music (broadly defined) region strikes me mystifying. It doesn’t help that it seems a bit unclear about the difference between a composer and a performer. It reminds me a bit of trying to use Pandora for classical music, where the algorithm may or may not work for popular music, but for classical the results are simply incoherent.Report

    • The makers also appear to be having us on once in a while. For example, Guided by Voices appears under “lo-fi” (so far so good), BUT also appear under “gbvfi” – it’s possible that GbV are influential and prolific enough, that they warrant their own genre, but…

      There’s also one called “Deep Indie Rock”, and I have never heard of ANY of them; I mean not one.

      Admittedly, I’m old and stuff, but come ON…some of these HAVE to be made up.

      Still, it’s a fun toy, and I’d wager that picking something you like in the pop/rock/dance/etc. spaces, and then checking out the proximate artists there, would probably net you a few finds.Report

      • Avatar Chris in reply to Glyph says:

        Oh, I think I’ve actually posted some Boy Eats Drum Machine here!

        I’m young. I’m young!

        (I couldn’t find anyone else on the “Deep Indie Rock” list that I’d heard of.)


      • Avatar Richard Hershberger in reply to Glyph says:

        Oh, it clearly works much better for pop/rock. And that is fine. I am mostly commenting on how people come up with these music algorithms and they conclude that because it works well for both rockabilly and grunge, it clearly is universally awesome. In particular, classical music has enough residual cultural prestige that they want to imagine their awesome algorithm works for classical, too. But they aren’t actually interested in classical, and there is no money in it, so no one puts in the effort to come up with an algorithm that actually works for classical.

        That is fine. You know what works for me? Radio stations. I am fortunate to have a very good local classical station, and there are many others that stream online. I will pull up a station from, say, Hong Kong to hear what they play. Life is good.

        But stuff like this is almost comical. I punched in Perotin. He is an interesting test case because he wrote around 1200, and is among the earliest composers where we can actually play it and ascribe it to this guy. It is so early that a lot of Western music ideas of harmony and melody had not yet gelled, and so he doesn’t really sound like what we think of as Western music. So what did this site do with him? It’s reaction was “fuck it: toss him in with everyone else from before 1600 or so” as if nothing had changed over the previous four hundred years.

        As another test I put in John Philip Sousa. It classified him as classical, romantic, and marching band. Going into romantic, he is near Vivaldi, which is weird. Sousa you can put in romantic based on his dates, but under no scheme is Vivaldi plausibly romantic. Going into marching bands, he is in the middle of a bunch of marching bands: Marine Corps Band, various college bands, and so forth: sensible so far as it goes, but not actually useful if I was wondering about other composers to marches.

        Then I put in Stephen Foster. The site has never heard of him. That is just pathetic. That’s when I quite testing it.Report

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