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Burt Likko

Pseudonymous Portlander. Homebrewer. Atheist. Recovering Republican. Recovering Catholic. Recovering divorcé. Editor-in-Chief Emeritus of Ordinary Times. Relapsed Lawyer, admitted to practice law (under his real name) in California and Oregon. On Twitter, to his frequent regret, at @burtlikko. House Likko's Words: Scite Verum. Colite Iusticia. Vivere Con Gaudium.

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  1. Avatar Damon says:

    Never moving to cali….Report

    • Avatar Kim says:

      Never moving to South Cali. ever, ever.Report

      • Avatar Burt Likko says:

        At first when I read the comments, I was all, “Hey! How is this any worse than anywhere else?”

        But then I was all, “Their loss. More SoCal for me.”

        And then I was like, “It’s aggravating to see the word California truncated to ‘Cali.'” Same way you don’t refer to San Francisco as “Frisco.”

        Then I was like, “Whatever. California just plain isn’t for everyone. Sone people just don’t get it and never will.” It isn’t perfect here but I still like it just fine.Report

        • Avatar Kim says:

          “How is this worse than anywhere else”
          … the people, particularly the fundamental culture. (your traffic is Scary! … granted your traffic on cocaine is scarier, but we really weren’t ever considering living in Las Vegas).

          I’m sorry about calling it Cali, i’ll try to use the full name in the future. (but you just called it SoCal!).Report

          • Avatar Burt Likko says:

            Traffic is bad here in SoCal, true, but Bay Area traffic is actually worse these days.

            “SoCal” and “NorCal” are acceptable. Substantial debate on what constitutes Northern California — I know some people who think Santa Barbara is a Northern California city but that’s just silly. Someone from Crescent City might plausibly protest including San Francisco in Northern California.

            If you’re from San Francisco itself, you’re above such provincial quibbles, and instead speak with a studied matter-of-fact affectation of the too-obvious-to-explicitly-mention superiority of residing in “The City,” with the capital letters audible.Report

            • Avatar aarondavid says:

              As a fellow CA resident, I will sign on to all that @burt-likko has said here, with one proviso – LA runs from Santa Barbara to Tijuana.

              Where Norcal starts and Socal ends is very fluid, but I always put the line in SLO county. YMMV.Report

        • Avatar Damon says:

          Well Burt, I DO refer to San Francisco as “Frisco” on occasion. 🙂

          You also have to appreciate my biases. I grew up in Washington State. Oregonians were “weird” what with they full service gas pumps and Californians? Weirder than Oregonians. Plus the traffic. No offense, just not my cup of tea.Report

        • Avatar Michael Cain says:

          Southern California has long had its own charms and energy (full disclosure: born there, parents moved away when I was three, regular visits on business for years). Anyone who approaches it with an open mind will recognize it, and how much it has defined the entire southwestern US. The sheer scale can be intimidating, but so’s the NYC metro area [1], or Chicago, or these days the sprawl of Houston or Atlanta. For what it’s worth, I also put Southern California at the top of the list for addressing contemporary liberal issues [2].

          [1] Attempts to limit the scope to just Manhattan, or just to NYC, are cop-outs. Manhattan and NYC are entirely dependent on a huge array of services provided by the outlying parts of the metro area and beyond.

          [2] Eg, air pollution. For example, in addition to dragging most of the rest of the US kicking and screaming to cleaner cars, no other major metro area in the US that I am aware of has taken on the enormous challenge the LADWP has: by 2025, no longer purchasing any coal-fired electricity.Report

  2. Avatar Francis says:

    Counselor: Let me know in advance the next time you’re heading to a bar conference downtown and I may join.

    (I might even try to take the Blue Line so we could share public transit stories. My day would not start at 4, though.)Report

  3. Avatar LWA says:

    Union Station was graced in the morning by a skinny fellow, who slapped his own shaven head every time he took a step with his left foot, and loudly said “oof!” at the moment of contact

    That is inaccurate. My head is not shaved, merely thinning with a bald spot, and I was lamenting that I had forgotten my hat.

    Now if you excuse me I am off for my evening train.Report