A Point in Favor of a Bobby Jindal Presidency


Vikram Bath

Vikram Bath is the pseudonym of a former business school professor living in the United States with his wife, daughter, and dog. (Dog pictured.) His current interests include amateur philosophy of science, business, and economics. Tweet at him at @vikrambath1.

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  1. Avatar zic says:

    Imagine what someone like Hilary as president might do for your daughter.

    (How is she? And you & Mrs. Bath? Welcome back, I’ve missed your contributions.)Report

    • Avatar Vikram Bath says:

      It’s difficult to know how things will shake out for her. When I was younger I would often reference the fact that I was born in the US, but others would argue that what was important was that they had some number of generations of ancestors from the US. In her case, she’s not born in the US, but maybe she’ll be able to make use of the fact that she has a parent who was.

      Really though, I think people who want to question you will find a reason to question you. As I obliquely mentioned in the post, I think the problem was ultimately under my control because I wasn’t secure in my own identity. Hopefully she won’t have that problem and can just not care what other people think.

      (She’s doing well. She even got along with the dog surprisingly well. (We got back yesterday. I wrote the above while in China; my next several posts will probably be me working through some things I wrote there. I’ve missed this site.)Report

    • Avatar Notme says:

      Sorry i dont see the logic in saying that Hillary would help VB’s daughter in the same way obama helped VB.Report

  2. Avatar North says:

    Not. Worth. It. The man is a barking idiot.Report

    • Avatar Saul Degraw says:

      He is even worse than that! He is a smart guy willing to play barking idiot to rise fast and quickly in GOP politics!Report

      • Avatar Vikram Bath says:

        I think everyone who runs for political office has to bat at well below the average IQ of the average voter if they want to have a chance of appealing to enough people to actually win.Report

      • Avatar zic says:

        @vikram-bath at local and state levels, and some members of Congress, bring that into doubt. Sometimes, real nimrods run (and win) offices because of particularly unengaged voters. And sometimes, because of engaged voters, too.Report

      • Avatar Vikram Bath says:

        No doubt. I meant to say that they bat below the average IQ of the average irrespective of their own IQ. I did not mean to say that they are all batting below their own IQs!Report

      • Avatar Kim says:

        I’d take that over honest stupidity.
        Also over rampant law-breaking for a political campaign.Report

  3. Avatar Jaybird says:

    You shouldn’t want a president that makes your life better.

    You should want a president that will make the lives of everyone else better, however intangibly.Report

  4. Avatar Kazzy says:

    Aziz Ansari talks about this.

    “Where are you from?”
    “North Carolina.”
    “No… Where are you FROM?”

    Also, I owe you an email!Report

    • Avatar Vikram Bath says:

      Actually I owe you an update. I found a solution!Report

    • Avatar Mike Schilling says:

      That was a running joke on Parks and Rec. He had a green card marriage, because his white and conventionally beautiful wife was Canadian, but people assumed it was the other way around (“Because you’re from Libya, right”?)

      Also, Aziz is from South Carolina, as is Stephen Colbert. Speaking of prejudices, I have to admit those two made me reevaluate what I thought I knew about the place.Report

  5. Avatar Brian Murphy says:

    I didn’t know Vikram was an exorcist.Report

    • Avatar Vikram Bath says:

      Actually, the exorcism thing is a point in favor of North’s assessment above.

      It might just have been unexamined religious beliefs though rather than a reflection of whether he was actually stupid. It’s unclear whether he continues to be that thoughtless (and cruel, frankly) as an adult.Report

  6. Avatar dexter says:

    I live in Louisiana and have been subjected to the machinations of Piyush Jindal since he was the savior for Louisiana’s health system under Governor Foster. I have never thought that he was stupid. I do think he is a vile little rat that ranks below pond scum. I do think he would do or say anything to gain more power. I also believe he has done a great deal of damage to the state of Louisiana.
    If you want to know more about our illustrious governor then I suggest CenLamar and The Daily Kingfish.
    One question; Jindal says that life starts at conception. If that is true and Piyush was conceived in India does that make him an Indian and thus not able to run for president of the US?Report

  7. Avatar dexter says:

    @will-truman , The difference is that I don’t hate Jindal because he has more melanin than the average Swede. I hate him because he is a lying little viper and a loathsome human who cares about nothing but his rise to power and who, in his desire for said power, has done a great deal of damage to my state.
    Like a lot a republicans (Baby Bush et al) who take power, he came to power with a balanced budget and has managed to pretty much bankrupt the state. Because of Jindal’s tax policies we are facing a huge deficit this year and Jindal wants to sell more of the state’s assets. What he is doing to the university system ought to be a crime. His sand berm for the oil spill cost the state millions and last weeks and I could go on but if you care, please go to the aforementioned blogs. They are much more articulate and thorough.Report

    • Avatar Notme says:

      I get it, your animus isnt racial but those who call obama Hussein, theres is racially motivated, because they are republicans, wink wink.Report

  8. Avatar Will Truman says:

    People who refer to the president as B Hussein Obama often say the same thing. More often than not I actually believe the speaker would hate him if he was white (because they sure hated Clinton) . Sometimes it was just an appeal to racism rather than racist thoughts on the part of the speaker (an appeal that at least arguably delayed Jindal’s governorship by four years). Whatever the case, it’s going out of the speaker’s way to emphasize the subject’s otherness.

    He goes by Bobby and not Piyush.Report

    • Avatar zic says:

      More often than not I actually believe the speaker would hate him if he was white (because they sure hated Clinton) .

      I think there may be a third alternative here: president/governors supporting policies that supposedly take money from hard-working folk and transferring it to people with higher levels of melanin.Report

  9. Avatar dexter says:

    Yeah right Will, there were so many congress critters calling Clinton a liar during the state of the union. As soon as the great Bobby Jindal deserves respect I will be more than glad to give him some. Also, I work construction in the South and am subjected to rednecks on a daily basis and have heard Obama called things that were never said about Clinton.
    During my dark days I am slammed by the fact that the three most powerful men in my state are Diaper Boy Vitter, Double Bill Cassidy and Piyush (aka Bobby) Jindal a man who so desperately want to be white that he lightens some of his photos. As soon as they have done the time for their crimes I will call them whatever they want to be called.Report

    • Avatar Will Truman says:

      Emphasizing someones foreignness doesn’t suddenly become cool cause you think they’ve got it coming. Or cause you’ve got some liberal halo on. Referring to the diaper comes across at sneering at Vitter for his sexual proclivities (and hypocrisy), which… well okay. Piyush comes across as sneering at Jindal for having Indian parents who gave him an Indian name,which… something not okay.Report

  10. Avatar Miss Mary says:

    Hi! Congratulations!!! I haven’t visited the site much in the past six or eight months so I’m surprised to hear about Baby Bath (and I totally get what you mean about missing OT). China?! Fun!

    Gosh, I hope I get to see you again! Bring the wife and baby to the next Leaugefest. 🙂Report

    • Avatar Vikram Bath says:


      Yeah, I was in China for 7 weeks. I tried learning some Mandarin, but I wasn’t able to work on it consistently. She sometimes gets frustrated with me for not understanding her. Baby Bath is actually almost three, so she’s not that much of a baby. I think I’ll stick with that as a nickname though.

      I’ll ask them to come! I’m not optimistic that they will though since my mother-in-law came back with us and probably can’t manage staying here alone.Report

  11. Avatar ScarletNumber says:

    Bobby gave himself the nickname of Bobby, in honor of Bobby Brady.


  12. Avatar dexter says:

    @will-truman , Here’s the funny thing, I don’t consider Jindal foreign. He is as much an American as I am. I have said it before on this blog but I will repeat now for all to see “Melanin does not matter”. I dislike Jindal because, in my opinion, he is a vile man. I am sorry if I offended anybody, but the thought of Jindal as president makes me justifiably apoplectic.Report

    • Avatar Will Truman says:

      Dexter, it’s cool. Like I said above, I think you’re a stand-up guy. I would prefer another nickname, though. The “Kenny the Page” reference SN alludes to doesn’t rub me the wrong the same way, and doesn’t have the associations. No problem with the fact that you dislike him greatly. I know many Louisianans who feel that way, left right and center.Report

      • Avatar ScarletNumber says:

        doesn’t rub me the wrong the same way

        But it rubs you wrong generally speaking?

        Also, bad job by me referring to him as an intern when he was a page.Report

      • Avatar Mike Schilling says:

        Damn, I thought you meant Jonathan.Report

      • Avatar Will Truman says:

        But it rubs you wrong generally speaking?

        I’m not a big fan of quippy names for public officials in any event (didn’t like Shrub or Billy Jeff, either). But that’s far more an aesthetic thing. Some are more genuinely bad than others.Report

      • Avatar ScarletNumber says:


        Except with Jindal the “quippy name” isn’t based on his name; it is based on his speaking and his mannerisms. Considering how quickly the meme spread, I think it is fair.Report

    • Avatar Brandon Berg says:

      The point is that when you use a personal characteristic of someone as a basis for an insult or criticism, there’s an implication that characteristic is a valid basis for criticism.Report

    • Avatar Vikram Bath says:

      “Melanin does not matter”

      Slogan of the melanin-deficient everywhere.Report

  13. Avatar Burt Likko says:

    I dunno, @vikram-bath . Are you like Bobby Jindal? Seems to me you’re a lot more thoughtful than he is and you draw intellectual sustenance from a much more heterogenous pool of information than he does.

    If it’s just a question of well, you and he kinda look alike, wouldn’t Nikki Haley be just as good?Report

    • Avatar Vikram Bath says:

      Well, I’m talking about superficial encounters with superficial people judging me on superficial criteria. I probably have a lot more things that matter in common with anyone commenting here than I do with any politician, but that isn’t what people who want to question where you are *really* from use as a criterion.

      So, yeah, it is just that we kinda look alike.

      Nikki Haley would perhaps accomplish the same thing, though we probably look somewhat less alike. I get the impression though that Jindal is definitely running for president but Haley probably won’t.Report

  14. Avatar Mike Schilling says:

    From Wikipedia:

    Member of the U.S. House of Representatives from Louisiana’s 1st district
    Preceded by David Vitter
    Succeeded by Steve Scalise

    What the hell is wrong with those voters?Report

  15. Avatar Brandon Berg says:

    @vikram-bath I went to China during Obama’s first term. I started taking to some guy, and of course he wanted to talk about Obama when he found out I was American. I wasn’t very good at Chinese, and had never seen Obama’s name written in Chinese, so I was very confused for few minutes when he said (paraphrasing, badly) ????????????Report