Glyph is worse than some and better than others. He believes that life is just one damned thing after another, that only pop music can save us now, and that mercy is the mark of a great man (but he's just all right). Nothing he writes here should be taken as an indication that he knows anything about anything.

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  1. Avatar Saul Degraw says:

    Elves is pretty much a dead ringer for I Wanna Be Your DogReport

    • Avatar Glyph says:

      I’m honestly shocked they even claimed otherwise; not just because the resemblance is unmistakable, but because for punks of that age and scene to be unfamiliar with one of Iggy’s best-known songs seems….improbable in the extreme.

      Either they were messing around with the interviewer, or else the proper way to look at the Fall is weirdly akin to hip-hop – they “sample” what they want, as a bed for Smith to rant over.Report

  2. Avatar aaron david says:

    I always confuse the Fall with the Alarm. Not sure why…

    As always, good post @glyphReport

  3. Avatar dhex says:

    i’ve never been able to get past his voice. he sounds like the dude from the b52s.

    this may well be a personal failing on my part.Report

    • Avatar Glyph says:

      Hmmm…Black Francis…Fred Schneider…Mark E Smith….There’s a common thread here, I think you just have an aversion to possibly-insane hectoring ranters.

      As a native New Yorker, this may be inevitable.Report

      • Avatar dhex says:

        think of it as musical colorblindness. there’s stuff going on here with all of these people – presumably – but i simply cannot hear it.Report

  4. Avatar greginak says:

    Victoria was always my favorite Fall song.

    FWIW when they hired a guy from The North to play Dr Who people it was a real thing to people. It was different. And as Capaldi said in the last Dr W season, every planet has a North.Report

    • Avatar Mike Schilling says:

      I can’t see that their cover adds anything to the original.Report

      • Avatar Glyph says:

        @greginak – well, for obvious reasons, it’s one of their least Fall-like songs.

        @mike-schilling – see above, and I DID say ‘surprisingly-faithful’. I would have expected the Fall to take a sledgehammer to it, not play it straight.Report

    • Avatar Glyph says:

      @greginak RE: “The North” obviously GRRM plays with this concept/stereotype in GoT as well.

      There’s probably a parallel you could make between Detroit and Manchester – cold industrial centers that have seen grim periods of economic devastation, and (not coincidentally) punch way above their weight classes when it comes to musical output.Report

  5. Avatar Chris says:

    Always loved them.

    Smith will take a phrase that makes no sense on its face, and through repetition and/or rearrangement of its phonemes, syllables, or concepts, destabilize the listener’s consciousness, in hopes of achieving something like insight or epiphany (or, perhaps just as frequently, make them feel like they are going crazy).


    • Avatar Chris says:

      Also, that first video is… I want to watch the original now.Report

    • Avatar Glyph says:

      For me they were an acquired taste, and it took me a long time to “get” them to even the degree I do. And I certainly don’t want to listen to them all the time.

      But, there are times when simply nothing else will do, and I will listen to nothing but Fall song after Fall song for an entire day, and that…DOES something to your thought processes.Report

      • Avatar Chris says:

        It was exactly the sort of music I dug in the mid-90s (which was probably when I first listened to them), probably because it was an acquired taste. I mean, it was the 90s, and I was listening to a lot of stuff that was heavily influenced by them as well, probably because that stuff was an acquired taste as well.Report

  6. Avatar Jaybird says:

    Apropos of nothing more than this being a music thread, I just finished listening to some Iron Maiden (hellz yeah) and the suggested music for after that included Europe and Guns and Roses (and not something like Coma or Locomotive or something awesome but November Rain).

    Has it come to that?Report

    • Avatar Glyph says:

      Artists played in Five Guys tonight:

      Hooters – “And We Danced”
      Hole – “Malibu”
      Donovan – “Season of the Witch”
      Gerry Rafferty – “Baker Street”
      Big Star – “September Gurls”
      Men At Work – “Be Good Johnny”

      It was electic.

      Also, is anyone else just drowning in new music? I have more things bookmarked to check out, or queued up, or ripped but barely played, than I know what to do with. 2015 is shaping up to be solid.Report