A Meathead Watches Gilmore Girls (“Emily In Wonderland” and “PS I Lo…”)


Sam Wilkinson

According to a faithful reader, I'm Ordinary Times's "least thoughtful writer." So I've got that going for me, which is nice.

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  1. Avatar Saul Degraw says:


    Dear god.”

    There is a strong part of me that wishes this was the entirety of the post 🙂Report

    • Avatar Sam Wilkinson in reply to Saul Degraw says:

      If anybody thinks this was me getting negative, just wait for Season Finale’s review.Report

      • Avatar Saul Degraw in reply to Sam Wilkinson says:

        These are the best hate-watch reviews I have ever seen!Report

      • Avatar Glyph in reply to Sam Wilkinson says:

        I don’t know if I’d call it “hate-watching” yet, since to me “hate-watching” implies watching something that you know is bad and have no faith it will ever get any better, just to yell and throw things at the screen. Generally this either happens with a show you used to like but now don’t, or one you thought might be good but became weirdly-fascinated by its ongoing badness.

        Sam has been assured by multiple people that it gets better, so just snarking through some bad ones isn’t “hate-watching”, yet.

        Now, if he really never warms to it, yet keeps going…Report

      • Avatar Sam Wilkinson in reply to Sam Wilkinson says:

        It’s getting closer. Especially after my wife casually dropped some upcoming plotlines on me. But I’ve been told that Season 2 is a vast improvement. So I’m getting ready for that.Report

  2. Avatar zic says:

    I’ve watched the whole thing now, and am trying really hard not to spoil with this comment.

    First, this is probably the lowest point of the show; there’s one other that really dragged, too.

    Second, this low point is actually doing some serious character development which will be called upon later. And here, I’m pretty inspired by the show; but I’m probably a really rare minority in my reaction, too. That’s because most people haven’t read the Popol Vuh; the Mayan religious stories written down by a Spanish Monk. It’s filled with characters with the same names; Lord One Death and Lord Seven Death, One Hunapuh and Seven Hunapuh. There are few names that only have one character — Xeblanque and Blood Woman. Throughout the Popol Vuh, characters with the same names who are obviously not the same people have adventures that are parallel, but not the same. So with the Gilmore Girls. Sometimes, the characters are good, sometimes they’re obviously misguided; it’s the varying versions, the parallels with different outcomes that are of value. There are no right answers, only a variation of answers to experiences.

    I noticed this at your last post — three Lorelais. As I binged the rest of the show, the parallel constructions grew more and more obvious; they reflected not just in any individual show, but through time as the show grew in layers over the seasons; and it spread to the other characters who didn’t share the same names, but played similar roles — lover, husband, teacher, provider, child-protector.

    It does get better, and watching with the parallels in mind made it a very rich experience.

    Hope that doesn’t spoil anything; I tried not to. I will try to point some of the parallels out as you move forward.Report

  3. Avatar LeeEsq says:

    Sam, you must really love your wife.Report

    • Avatar Sam Wilkinson in reply to LeeEsq says:

      I do. Especially because she keeps saying, “This was so bad. It gets so much better. Well, basically it does. Mostly. There’s some better stuff ahead.”Report

      • Avatar LeeEsq in reply to Sam Wilkinson says:

        A TV show, especially a serial one like the Gilmore Girls, shouldn’t require people to slog through an entire season of bad writing and plotting before it gets good. There needs to be a strong indication that its going to be good early on for me to invest in it. Episodic TV shows are a little easier to bear because you don’t have to watch each episode in order to get everything.Report

      • Avatar Glyph in reply to Sam Wilkinson says:

        I dunno, I suffered through the first season of Fringe, because I had been told it got better. And it did, seasons 2 and 3 were awesome.

        But my brother was telling me about a show that he didn’t think got good until season 5, and no way am I wading through 4 seasons of meh.Report

      • Glyph,

        I just skip them. In fact, I think you’re the one who told me to skip the first season of Fringe. I had watched the first two episodes and thought it was terrible, and you mentioned seasons 2 and 3 were good. I think you also said never to watch the last season too though.

        Anyway, I do that with a lot of shows now. I’ve been watching Agents of Shield selectively by skipping episodes that the AVClub disses.Report

      • Avatar Glyph in reply to Sam Wilkinson says:

        Yeah, I have trouble with that. I generally like to start from the beginning with TV series and keep going either until it ends or I get tired of it, but I don’t like wondering if I missed something before I came in or in an episode or season I skipped.Report

      • Avatar Mike Schilling in reply to Sam Wilkinson says:

        I wouldn’t have had any real appreciation of Breaking Bad if I’d missed the pilot, where we see Malcolm field-test his “turn anyone into a brilliant scientist” drugs on Hal.Report

  4. Avatar Maribou says:

    “but to present Luke as if he’s being the bad guy here”

    I never for *one minute* thought I was supposed to think Luke was the bad guy. I thought Lorelai taking Rachel’s side was a) her trying to be a good friend and not a jealous almost-girlfriend when really she was the latter so she was trying super extra hard to be the former and b) her still being in denial (which is different than being confused or oblivious) about Luke. I thought it was supposed to be obvious that Luke was actually in the right, completely, and that the unpredictable and difficult behavior of Rachel was good explanation of why *he* at least, was so in denial about the thing between him and Lorelai.

    I admit that reading these recaps does make me wonder if Gilmore-Girls-in-Maribou’s-Head isn’t rather superior to the actual show they made :P.Report

    • Avatar Kimmi in reply to Maribou says:

      +1. I actually got most of this out of the recap.
      Lorelei has a crush on someone, but she knows he likes (and is somewhat involved with), someone else. So I will be super helpful to the other girl. At least Luke figures out what is going on.

      Same plot with Worf and Quark in Ds9, with Grilka. Of course, there they had to prick Worf’s honor a bit.
      (and the script sucked, and got mostly trashed due to awesome directing).Report

    • Avatar Mike Schilling in reply to Maribou says:

      Rachel is obviously going to leave, yes? (Not a spoiler, since I haven’t watched past this episode; just a prediction.) Which will make it clear that Luke was right and Lorelai is responsible (at least in intergalactic court) for talking him into being hurt badly yet again.

      By the way, there really was a movie called “Queen of Outer Space” starring Zsa Zsa Gabor, screenplay by Ben Hecht (!) [1]. The IMDB FAQ is pretty hilarious.

      1. If that name is unfamiliar, his other credits include the original Scarface, The Front Page, and Some Like it Hot.Report

  5. Avatar Mike Schilling says:

    In the second episode, Rory did one truly bad thing. Being irritable? It happens. Going to her grandparents’ house? Entirely reasonable. Not letting her mother know she was safe? Unforgivable.

    So naturally, it’s the only thing nobody brings up with her.Report