The San Antonio Spurs Have Won Their 5th NBA Title


Sam Wilkinson

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  1. Avatar Kazzy says:

    “And with Tim Duncan too, the greatest big man player of his generation…”
    Fixed it for ya.

    I’d have taken Duncan over Kobe even before this year, but the 5th title clinches it. Duncan bests everyone else whose prime overlapped with his… Kobe, Garnett, Nowitzki, Nash. Hell, even Shaq, who may or may not be of the same generation but still pales in comparison to Duncan.Report

    • Avatar Patrick says:

      I will take the 1999-2000 Shaq over Duncan any year.

      I’ll take Kareem for the career over Duncan’s career.

      Both of ’em are close, though.Report

      • Avatar Kazzy says:

        Shaq at his peak trumps Duncan at his peak. Shaq’s career does not trump Duncan’s career though. Kareem’s does, but Kareem was out of the league before Duncan came in.Report

  2. Avatar Michael Drew says:

    People who will note things like LJ’s Finals record at this point mostly aren’t trying to say he hasn’t played fantastically in most of the Finals he’s been in, I don’t think. They’re simply noting the state of the race for Greatest/comparison with Jordan that he inaugurated with “Not one, not two…” and that the media took hold of and prematurely ran with with the clear agenda to see it get borne out.

    Lots of players have played fantastically in a number of Finals. Only two have done what Jordan did and only one has done it in an era comparable to this one. Lebron is more like the many – like, say, Tim Duncan – not like the Two. Further, he is now only on a track to remain like them, though he could still get onto a higher track. But for now he’s not on it).

    Perhaps some who point out James’ Finals record are trying to say he hasn’t played fantastically, but I deny that most are. They’re mostly saying he’s not on track to challenge Jordan’s level of greatness, and that’s not trolling. At this point saying that he is on such a track is closer to trolling than it is to say he’s not (though I don’t think either is actually trolling).Report

  3. Avatar Vikram Bath says:

    OMG So many passes! I’m curious as to how they avoided having more turnovers.Report

    • Avatar Chris says:

      Because they have a system, and it’s the way some of these guys have played together for, in the case of their 3-man core (Duncan, Parker, and Ginobili), more than a decade. They move to space without the ball, they look to pass first (so they don’t get themselves into trouble and then try to pass out of it), they sign players with good vision, and they have Duncan. While I don’t think Duncan is a better player than Shaq, because when Shaq was in his prime he was simply unguardable (and was, when he was young, a 7’2″ center who could lead a fast break), but he is probably the best passing big man of all time.Report

      • Avatar switters says:

        Shaq could be stopped. Just had to send him to the line.

        In all seriousness though, Shaq was better at his peak as conventionally determined. So a team with no great players, or even one, would improve more in the first year with the addition of shaq compared to duncan.

        But Shaq couldn’t do what Duncan has done on a real “team”. Perhaps in part because he didn’t want to. He was the antithesis of team. A total “me” guy. And an average passer.Report

      • Avatar Mike Schilling says:

        And a guy whose fragile ego wouldn’t allow him to fix the biggest hole in his game by learning to shoot free throws underhand. (Rick Barry, he of the adamantine ago, didn’t have that problem and made 90% over his career.)Report

      • Avatar switters says:

        Yep – Shaq’s biggest deficiency was always that he was more of a showman than a competitor.Report

  4. Avatar James Hanley says:

    I have no natural reason to like San Antonio, but I do because of the way they play.Report

  5. Avatar Mo says:

    No one should focus on James because he did what he could. Instead you have to wonder why they are still called a Big Three in Miami when Dwayne Wade is playing basketball with a fork sticking out of his back.Report

    • Avatar Jaybird says:

      As someone who lives in Broncos Country, I find myself wondering “what’s wrong with being consistently the second-best team in the sport, year after year?”Report

      • Avatar Michael Cain says:

        What are the chances that Pat Bowlen could have got the Coors Field sales tax extended to pay for the new football stadium if he had lost the Super Bowl again? Especially after he had just changed the uniforms to get rid of the Denver-specific colors and logo?Report

  6. Avatar Mike Schilling says:

    The Spurs are also the best-run franchise in basketball. No drama, no demands to be traded, no holdouts, no salary cap problems, and a steady stream of good young players to complement the veterans.Report

    • Avatar Kolohe says:

      And without even being eligible for the draft lottery since Duncan, correct?Report

    • Avatar Michael Cain says:

      Who was it who said, about the Spurs, “No one can win a title with a Frenchman playing point guard?” I like the piece of the clip around 1:09 where Popovich and Parker are talking (arguing?), then Parker goes to the bench to talk to the other players, who all give him their undivided attention.Report

    • Avatar Patrick says:

      The Spurs also have the current title holder for “Best Coach in the League”.

      And he’s a legitimate contender for one of the top five all-time in the NBA.Report