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  1. Avatar Burt Likko says:

    I actually do have three predictions for things that I think they will do. So how do I go on record with them? Post here with rot13?Report

    • Avatar Jaybird says:

      Let’s rot13 at first, then we can have a deadline with a post discussing the various predictions all together. Maybe some of us think alike but don’t know it!

      I mean, that’s my suggestion.Report

  2. Avatar J@m3z Aitch says:

    Man, now I feel like the pressure is really on. 😉

    If you decide on a good way to work this, I can’t wait to see what people come up with.Report

  3. Avatar Burt Likko says:

    Okay then, here’s what I think they’ll do.

    1. Havpnzreny angvbany yrtvfyngher, jvgu ab svyvohfgre — gung vf, gurl’yy unir n Ubhfr bs Ercerfragngvirf, ohg abg n Frangr.

    2. Aba-qvfpevzvangvba (yvxr Gvgyr IVV, abg yvxr Rdhny Cebgrpgvbaf Pynhfr) jevggra vagb Pbafgvghgvba.

    3. Nagv-nobegvba cebivfvba (bssrerq ba pynvz bs arrq gb ercbchyngr gur angvba nsgre mbzovr ncbpnylcfr) aneebjyl snvyf gb cnff.Report

  4. Avatar zic says:

    Some info from @jm3z-aitch would be helpful; at the very least, number of students, gender, and some grasp of socioeconomic range and regions of the country they represent. (I’d expect different outcomes from a class with more men than I would from a class equally balanced or with more women, and different outcomes if the majority of students hail from the midwest, south, east, west-coast, etc.)Report

    • Avatar J@m3z Aitch says:

      The class currently has 12 students registered, and the final roster will probably change by a few students (more likely a few more, rather than a few less, as I’ll probably get 1 or 2 transfer students and possibly a few freshman honors students, but that will not be known until late August).

      The current gender breakdown is 8 men, 4 women, but one of the women is the only senior in the class, and is an insightful, dynamic, and well-organized person who is experience in diplomatic simulation (Model UN and Model Arab League, and I observed her playing the board game Diplomacy once, and swore then and there I’d never play in a game she was in). She would–undoubtedly–dominate the simulation, so I have asked her to hold back a bit to give others a chance to act before she intimidates them into compliance, and to act as my proxy when I want students to consider something.

      The students are predominantly middle class–of varying, but unknown degrees, of middleness. Some will probably be upper middle class, but overall our demographic profile probably hovers at an average of middle-middle class.

      11 of the students are from Michigan or Ohio, mostly small to medium sized towns, but with one or two from the Detroit suburbs. 1 is from Phoenix, AZ, but has roots in Michigan (parents are alums of the college, still has family in Michigan). 10 appear to be Caucasian, one African-American, and the Arizona student is Korean/Caucasian.

      I can’t speak to their politics. I don’t know them all, and even with students I know, I generally avoid making efforts to know their political views (although sometimes they’re rather more open about them than I would prefer).Report

  5. Avatar Saul DeGraw says:

    I predict that the class will end in a surprise zombie attack and everyone “dies”.

    No one expects the Zombie apocalypse!Report

    • Avatar James K says:

      And yet zombies move so slowly, that you’d think you’d see it coming.Report

      • Avatar Saul DeGraw says:

        A: What is that large but slowly moving mass of somewhat decaying flesh coming towards us?

        B: I think you need to have your eyes checked.

        A: Probably.Report

    • Avatar Murali says:

      Especially if they are zombies of members of the Spanish inquisition. Among their arsenal are fear, surprise, ruthless efficiency, near fanatical devotion to the Pope, and a slow menacing lurching gait.Report

  6. Avatar Jaybird says:

    What are the zombie rules? I’m mainly wondering about what causes zombie. In “The Walking Dead”, everybody’s already infected… so death turns them into zombies no matter what (excepting a head shot). Other zombie flicks, however, allowed for Zombie to be transmitted only via death by zombie. This might change things. (Also, we’re talking slow zombies, right? Fast zombies were just a flash in the pan, right?)

    Gurl’yy cebonoyl fcyvg hc vagb gjb snpgvbaf. Fvk naq fvk be svir naq frira. Guvf vf orpnhfr bar bs gurz jvyy or n ohapu bs fheivinyvfg glcrf jubfr sbphf jvyy or fbyryl ba znxvat vg guebhtu rabhtu jvagref gb pbasvqragyl fnl gung gur cynthr unf cnfg. Gurve pbafgvghgvba, fhpu nf vg vf, jvyy qrgnvy erfcbafvovyvgvrf bs pvgvmraf (naq chavfuzragf sbe snvyvat gb zrrg gurz) zber guna nalguvat ryfr. Fghss yvxr “sbhaq gb unir snyyra nfyrrc qhevat jngpu” jvyy or ba gurer.

    Gur bgure tebhc jvyy or bar gung jnagf gb frg qbja ehyrf sbe n arj fbpvrgl *ABJ*. Gurl’yy gnyx nobhg fghss yvxr tnl zneevntr naq, sbe fbzr ernfba, “urnygu pner”. Vg’yy yvxryl or pbzzhavfg (fznyy ‘P’) naq gur rzcunfvf jvyy or ba gur vzcbegnapr bs funevat engvbaf snveyl, funevat urnygu pner snveyl, naq fb ba.

    Vs gurer’f n frperg onyybg nfxvat “juvpu tebhc vf zber yvxryl gb frr 2020?”, gur srenyf jvyy cebonoyl jva.Report

    • Avatar Burt Likko says:

      It was my understanding that the zombies were all gone; whatever caused them is destroyed and the task at hand is rebuilding society. But given my prediction no. 3 above, I think you and I anticipate something similar in the political cleavage.Report

      • Avatar J@m3z Aitch says:

        Yes, the zombies are gone. They’re just a conceit to explain how the U.S. fractured into a disunited Trumanverse.Report

      • Avatar Jaybird says:

        I had assumed roving gangs of zombies still found in lakes or in the woods or what have you. Okay. They’re all gone? A couple of tweaks but nothing earth-shattering:

        Gurl’yy cebonoyl fcyvg hc vagb gjb snpgvbaf. Fvk naq fvk be svir naq frira. Guvf vf orpnhfr bar bs gurz jvyy or n ohapu bs fheivinyvfg glcrf jubfr sbphf jvyy or fbyryl ba znxvat vg guebhtu gur arkg jvagre naq, va gur zrqvhz grez, gur bar nsgre gung. Gurve pbafgvghgvba, fhpu nf vg vf, jvyy qrgnvy erfcbafvovyvgvrf bs pvgvmraf (naq chavfuzragf sbe snvyvat gb zrrg gurz) zber guna nalguvat ryfr. Fghss yvxr “sbhaq gb unir snyyra nfyrrc qhevat jngpu” jvyy or ba gurer. Vg jvyy or snveyl erterffvir, fbpvnyyl. Zra jvyy eha nebhaq jrnevat shef, jbzra jvyy fgnl vaqbbef znxvat dhvygf naq qelvat sehvg naq jungabg. Gurfr sbyxf jvyy or va gur Abegurnfg, nebhaq gur terng ynxrf, naq jryy vagb Zvpuvtna, V erpxba. Creuncf rira Jvfpbafva be Zvaarfbgn.

        Gur bgure tebhc jvyy or bar gung jnagf gb frr gur mbzovr ncbpnylcfr nf na vagreehcgvba gb jung gurl jrer qbvat orsber gur ivehf fubjrq hc. Gurl’yy gnyx nobhg fghss yvxr tnl zneevntr naq, sbe fbzr ernfba, “urnygu pner”. Vg’yy yvxryl or pbzzhavfg (fznyy ‘P’) naq gur rzcunfvf jvyy or ba gur vzcbegnapr bs funevat engvbaf snveyl, funevat urnygu pner snveyl, funevat qhgvrf serryl, naq fb ba. Gurl’yy or nybat gur fbhgurnfgrea pbnfgyvarf, gur thys pbnfg, naq hc naq qbja gur grzcrengr cnegf bs gur Zvffvffvccv.

        Vs gurer’f n frperg onyybg nfxvat “vs bayl bar bs gurfr tebhcf fheivirf, juvpu tebhc vf zber yvxryl gb frr 2020?”, gur srenyf jvyy cebonoyl jva.Report

      • Avatar J@m3z Aitch says:

        Well, I’m telling the students they’re all gone, so they don’t obsess on zombie protections. But I’m building in varying levels of confidence about that, from state to state. What the students end up focusing on, though, will be largely up to them.

        And as a comment appropriate to your predictions, I should clarify that at present–barring more students–the convening states will be limited to the upper Midwest, Great Lakes, and maybe Mid-Atlantic states.Report

      • Avatar Jaybird says:

        It seems to me that the Great Lakes area of the country (especially Michigan) has a lot of bounty *BUT* you have to play the game as if you were an ant (rather than a grasshopper). You’ve got a wonderful spring, a bountiful summer, a HUGELY bountiful autumn, followed by one hell of a crappy winter. If you played your cards right during the year, you won’t lose much weight come February and March and Easter will be a blast. You’ll celebrate all kinds of fertility. Maybe come up with some new gods… And there’s a culture that follows from that that won’t follow from states that have, say, year-round growing seasons.Report

  7. Avatar Michael Cain says:

    A paragraph I should have probably included in the original…

    The purpose of asking these questions at this time is not to stimulate submission of predictions, or questions regarding the details of the post-zombie scenario. I’m assuming that James is willing to provide a synopsis of what he gives the students to us when he has it (or maybe not; if I were a student, I might not want a bunch of people looking over the prof’s shoulder at what I was doing). All I’m trying to do is figure out how to structure things, and if software is involved, deal with the problem that can be summarized as, “If you want the clever real-time bits to run properly, give the job to Mike; don’t let Mike design the user interface.”Report

    • Avatar J@m3z Aitch says:

      I will provide an account of what I give the students. Doing so will not compromise any privacy rights of the students, so I have no qualms about making the information public. Indeed I’d love it if other profs stumbled across it and decided to experiment with the idea, with or without zombies (I think the important part of the simulation is providing some contextual familiarity–it takes place in a geographical region familiar to them–while abstracting away from the states as they currently know them, so that they are consciously crafting a new constitution for a very changed place, rather than just tinkering with the current U.S. Constitution.Report

  8. Avatar Chris says:

    How much should the vampires and shape-shifters figure into our predictions?Report

  9. Avatar aaron david says:

    So, who’s going to start a pool?Report