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Russell Saunders

Russell Saunders is the ridiculously flimsy pseudonym of a pediatrician in New England. He has a husband, three sons, daughter, cat and dog, though not in that order. He enjoys reading, running and cooking. He can be contacted at blindeddoc using his Gmail account. Twitter types can follow him @russellsaunder1.

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  1. Avatar Glyph
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    Uh…”peach” is sometimes used to refer in general to an attractive female, and sometimes specifically to her booty.

    I have no idea if this is the “hidden” meaning of the song, but I will quote at length from wikipedia:

    Content

    The lyrics of “Peaches” discuss a man moving to the country to eat vast quantities of canned peaches at no cost to him. Briefly mentioned is the hard-working American man who cans the peaches in a factory downtown. The narrator also speculates that a finger sized hole in a singular peach may hold an ideal hiding spot for an ant. He then warns the listener; “Look out!” he calls. There’s a finite number of free peaches for him. Luckily, that number is in the millions.

    Song meaning

    Lead singer Chris Ballew has stated that he wrote “Peaches” about a girl he once had a crush on. He allegedly wrote this song after sitting under a peach tree she had in her yard while waiting for her to arrive, to finally let her know that he liked her.[4]

    Music video

    The music video features the band performing the song in an orchard filled with trees growing peach cans. During the song’s instrumental break, the band is attacked by a group of ninjas attempting to capture them, whom they fight for the remainder of the video and eventually defeat.

    You know, I never really cared about this song…but that wikipedia description is making me kind of love it.Report

  2. Avatar Jaybird
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    The Presidents Of The United States Of America excelled at nonsense songs that sound like they’ve got a naughty second interpretation.

    “Kitty”, for example, has this whole double entendre thing going on and you’re *SURE* that “kitty on my foot and I wanna touch it!” has this double meaning that would totally get you in trouble. *THUMP THUMP THUMP* “What are you listening to in there?” “Nothing mom! It’s just a song about a cat!”

    See? Nobody would believe that. But wouldn’t you know it, it’s a song about a cat. That’s it.

    “Lump” is my most hated song. From what I’ve heard, it was nothing more than the writer wanting to put all of his favorite words in a song. It *FEELS* naughty, though.

    So when we come to “Peaches” the immediate implication is T.S. Eliot and whether the mermaids will sing to him. Hell, there’s the part of the song that one would seriously think was building to something:
    Take a little nap where the roots all twist
    Squished a rotten peach in my fist
    And dreamed about you, woman,
    I poked my finger down inside
    Make a little room for an ant to hide

    See? Filthy! *THUMP THUMP THUMP* “WHAT ARE YOU LISTENING TO IN THERE???”

    But then they finish up:
    Nature’s candy in my hand or can or a pie

    “NOTHING MOM! IT’S A SONG ABOUT FRUIT!”

    To answer your question, I still think that Will Smith’s rap about the Men In Black that was looped over a Weird Al-esque reinterpretation of “Forget Me Nots”. That song is just mind-bogglingly dumb *AND* it uses a mind-bogglingly catchy disco hook.Report

    • Avatar Glyph in reply to Jaybird
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      Of course, neither “candy” nor “can” nor “pie” have ever had more than one meaning….Report

    • Avatar Russell Saunders in reply to Jaybird
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      I have heard it said that “Lump” is about Courtney Love. I considered titling this post “Courtney Love edition.”

      It may shock you to learn that this interpretation of “Peaches” does not endear it to me much.Report

      • Avatar Jaybird in reply to Russell Saunders
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        I suppose one could draw distinctions between “pleasantly dumb” and “aggressively dumb” where “pleasantly dumb” invites you to be dumb with the song while “aggressively dumb” just goes straight to the making you dumber whether or not you’re inclined to play along or not.

        I had always put “Peaches” in the “pleasantly dumb” category (next to “Kitty”, for the record) while “Lump” was in the “aggressively dumb” one.

        I can totally see why someone would sort them differently, though. Dumb can reach critical mass pretty quickly.Report

  3. Avatar North
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    “Mmm Mmm Mmm Mmm” was indeed very stupid but I submit that you must grant that it is a very pleasantly melodic song. I never understood what the fish they were singing about but I loved the song, the tune and the harmonic singing. Also see God Shuffled his Feet, easily my favorite Crash Test Dummies song.

    Since I adore peaches (literal peaches only you gross hetero pervs) I always sort of nodded along to the song. I also would enjoy eating millions of quality free peaches.

    I’m conflicted about Pearl Jam. The song Jeremy is kind of powerful and it is additionally just as salient today as it was when it’s written. Perhaps, in the era of Sandy Hook, it’s even more salient than ever. That said there was a fad when I was in school of singing this song’s title line whenever I answered a question in school; my given name is Jeremie. This couples with an earlier phenomenon of my sailing pals being fond of singing that wretched “Jeremiah was a Bullfrog” song periodically when I was around led me to a strange impression that there was some cadre of singers in the US who had it in for me.Report

  4. Avatar Tod Kelly
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    As Glyph kind of says above, when you here “peaches” in pop music, know that it generally is a euphemism about lady parts. (It is not coincidental that you almost always have a reference to “eating a…” in these songs.)

    My pitches for the dumbest song will always pale in comparison to this (or this).Report

  5. Avatar greginak
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    Apropos of not really much, i counter Peaches with Peaches and Herb

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  6. Avatar NewDealer
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    1. Perhaps it was very clever dada/performance art. Maybe the band asked themselves “What is the stupidest song we can write and turn into a mega-hit and laugh all the way to the bank?” Occam’s razor said it was a novelty song that will be inexplicable to future generations. I often feel the same way about much pop music in the era from after Buddy Holly died until the Beatles came around.

    2. Form 10-K filings for the SEC.Report

  7. Avatar Mike Schilling
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    My default assumption is that if something in a pop song makes no sense it’s about either sex or drugs.Report

  8. Avatar johanna
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    Aqua’s Barbie Girl – Ugh. Even more than just that song being stupidly disturbing, was watching a 7 to 9 year old girl performing to it in a skating competition.

    Russell is Peaches up there with Sex Dwarf?Report

  9. Avatar Chris
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    Presidents of the United States of America were pretty up front about the fact that they were just goofing off and having fun. They were explicitly not trying to make serious music. Hell, their instruments didn’t have all of their strings. I think they saw themselves as the antidote to rock that was starting to take itself way too seriously and always being about something, and something serious.

    And “Peaches” is about a girl.

    I’m not sure what the dumbest song topic would be, but I’m pretty sure that whatever it is there are several songs about it from 1966 through 1972, written while the songwriter was unbelievably high.Report

    • Avatar Kim in reply to Chris
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      Worse than puns? or writing songs about math?Report

    • Avatar Burt Likko in reply to Chris
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      This.

      I rather enjoy the Presidents precisely because it’s basically all goofy nonsense. If you want depth, that’s what your Radiohead is for. If you’re going to be mainly drinking beer with your friends, the Presidents are kind of fun to have on.Report

    • Avatar Pinky in reply to Chris
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      Listen to the whole album some time. They had nowhere near enough material for it. The songs repeat lyrics over and over; some of them repeat lyrics from the other songs. Lyrically, you’d have trouble singling out the worst song on the album, because they’re across-the-board gibberish.Report

  10. Avatar Mad Rocket Scientist
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    This may shed some light on the question.

    Chris Ballew currently is part of a band called Casper Baby Pants, who write & perform kids songs and are quite popular out here in Seattle.

    Also, the name for Presidents of The United States was an onstage joke that stuck (the band was doing a gig one night & kept introducing themselves during the set with different goofy band names. PUSA got the best reaction from the audience).

    In short, they have always been quite silly.Report

  11. Avatar Patrick
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    Wait, people don’t like “Jane Says”?Report

  12. Avatar Kim
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    “What is the single dumbest thing you can think of to write a song about?”

    Forest goats. But man did that song win awards!

    So maybe I’ll try again later.Report

  13. Avatar Dan Miller
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    OK, you guys are all wrong. Russell, you omit the key line in the song, which is that the peaches come from a can. They were put there by a man, in a factory downtown. This glaring discontinuity with the actual source of peaches (namely, a tree) invites the listener to contrast sterile and metallic civilization with the natural joy and pleasure of a peach. Only when peaches have been liberated from their commercialized and constrained containers can they truly be enjoyed. In expressing this sentiment, the Presidents of the United States of America are a worthy heir to Thoreau, Wendell Berry, and the Unabomber.Report

  14. Avatar dhex
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    milkshake by kelis. it’s really dumb. but it’s also an awesome summer song (the base is amaaaaaazing in a loud environment), so i’m torn.

    i mean pretty much any black metal is pretty dumb (out of context), but it’s hard to find songs that, on their face, aren’t pretty stupid if you yank out the lyrics from their context.

    e.g.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es2Tz55VCnw

    the vocal delivery is dumb, the lyrics are probably dumb (something about the slumber of the end of the world i think) but the song completely rips.

    see also: lightning bolt, cannabis corpse (esp. “blunted at birth”), etcReport

  15. Avatar LeeEsq
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    I was surprised to learn that a lot of bands that I listened to in high school like the Dave Matthews Band are technically still around. They don’t get much play but they still tour.Report

  16. Avatar Damon
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    I always liked the Presidents. “Lump” the best, but I did like “Peaches”.

    In answer to 2, even though I think it’s stupid, I do enjoy Liam Lynch’s “My United States”.Report

  17. Avatar Pinky
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    Rock Lobster – The B-52’s

    Not only are the lyrics ridiculous, but the lead singer’s delivery makes it sound like he thinks they’re really important, like they could save a secret agent’s life or something.Report

  18. Avatar dragonfrog
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    I’m not sure if Joe Wecker’s “Descramble” is transcendently brilliant or transcendently dumb. The song is the algorithm to remove DVD content encryption, set to music. I couldn’t find a youtube video of it, but here are its lyrics http://www.justsomelyrics.com/1676442/joseph-wecker-descramble-%28this-function-is-void%29-lyrics.htmlReport

    • Avatar Kim in reply to dragonfrog
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      it’s… both.Report

      • Avatar dragonfrog in reply to Kim
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        I perhaps don’t need to tell you specifically, but the point was not to make a great song – it was to illustrate that explaining how to do something in song (protected by the first amendment) is fundamentally no different from explaining how to do something in a compilable programming language (an act of illicit explanation under the DMCA).Report

  19. Avatar dragonfrog
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    Ultimately, whatever the stupidest theme for a song we come up with here, Frank Zappa has recorded a song about something stupider.Report

  20. Avatar Murali
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    And “I am the Walrus” is supposed to make sense? Or for that matter what about “Yellow Submarine”. There is a fine and well established tradition of having completely nonsensical or inane lyrics.Report

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