Creative Team Behind “Batwoman” Quits After DC Interferes

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Ethan Gach

I write about comics, video games and American politics. I fear death above all things. Just below that is waking up in the morning to go to work. You can follow me on Twitter at @ethangach or at my blog, gamingvulture.tumblr.com. And though my opinions aren’t for hire, my virtue is.

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  1. Avatar J@m3z Aitch says:

    I tried to warn them that Batwoman as dominatrix was just a ripoff of Catwoman, but would they listen to me? Nooooo.Report

  2. Avatar Patrick says:

    While DC’s decisions regarding Batwoman and the creative team’s resulting departure are both infuriating and saddening

    I think you meant, “predictable and… uh… predictable.”Report

    • Avatar trumwill in reply to Patrick says:

      I actually find DC’s decision with regard to Batwoman odd. It’s not like they’ve been particularly conservative – either in the political sense or temperamental one – on these issues. They’ve been very vocal about their attempts to include gay characters in their stable. That they’d have press releases about Alan Scott* and Batwoman being gay and lesbian, including a picture of Alan kissing his boyfriend, and draw the line at marriage does honestly strike me as odd.Report

  3. Avatar Jesse Ewiak says:

    It’s important to note this isn’t the first time this has happened since the nu52 reboot. Various writers and artists have been replaced (sometimes, even before their first issue has come out) and it seems the whole company is being run by editorial fiat, which isn’t surprising, since DC is now being ran by Bob Harras, he of the editorial-dominated time of early 90’s Marvel.Report

  4. Avatar Mike Schilling says:

    The same thing happened with the Tolstoy-Dostoyevsky reboot of Spiderman, which is why they switched to writing novels.Report

  5. Avatar Jim Heffman says:

    Jim Shooter is laughing from his grave. (Oh, he isn’t dead? Well, he *should* be.)Report

  6. Avatar Jaybird says:

    I haven’t read any of these books but I do still get Batman and Detective Comics.

    I’d just wonder what these guys were promised when they started. If they were told “hey, we run a tight ship and our continuity editor is the most important person in the building”, that’s one thing. If they were told “hey, you guys have free reign and all you have to do is just avoid using the “F” word!”, then that is, indeed, quite another.

    If nothing else, it sounds like it was *NOT* a good fit… I hope Top Cow snatches them up and lets them come up with something amazing.Report

    • Avatar Jesse Ewiak in reply to Jaybird says:

      The thing is, Williams has been the artist since the beginning of the book, pre-Nu52. So, for a few years, it has seemed like a great fit, especially since William’s art and writing had led to numerous award and acclaim for DC.Report

  7. Avatar Burt Likko says:

    Are self-published webcomics doing well, economically? Would that be a viable place these writers and artists might go? Or are they pretty much obliged to work with a publisher?Report

    • Avatar Jesse Ewiak in reply to Burt Likko says:

      In a sense, yes. There is complete self publishing, but there’s a lot of upfront costs and basically, if you’re comic isn’t a success, then you’re completely done.

      But, what has happened is independent publishers such as Image, IDW, and Boom! have a middle ground. You own the IP and the publisher puts up the costs for the book (publishing, printing, etc.) and you don’t earn any royalties until the publisher make their money back.

      In most cases, this is about 5,000 copies or so, which is what a book has to sell to make it in the Top 300. However, the issue is that to make a living, it had to sell a lot more and few comics outside of Marvel and DC sell that many. The general “career” cycle for a comic book creator these days is have comics as a side job where you sell one or two indy comic that gets your name known out there, get a few freelance gigs for Marvel or DC, then finally become a main writer for them, at which point, your name is big enough that if you launch a creator owned series with Image, you can sell that 15 or 20 thousand copies that will make you enough and get enough attention from Hollywood/TV/other forms of media.Report

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