Monday Trivia, No. 126 [Mo and Michael Cain win!]

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Mike Schilling

Mike has been a software engineer far longer than he would like to admit. He has strong opinions on baseball, software, science fiction, comedy, contract bridge, and European history, any of which he's willing to share with almost no prompting whatsoever.

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  1. Avatar Jaybird
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    The Other Four Corners?

    (I was sure that either BC and Alberta split off where Warshington and Idaho split or that Manitoba and Ontario split off where North Dakota and Minnesota do but…)Report

    • Avatar Burt Likko in reply to Jaybird
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      Chihuahua and Arizona do not touch. About 17.5 miles separates the Sonora-Arizona-New Mexico tripoint from the Sonora-Chihuahua-New Mexico Tripoint.

      My guess is “states where the Navajo language is taught in the public schools.”Report

  2. Avatar Johanna
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    Chiricahua leopard frogReport

  3. Avatar Damon
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    If I’ve got my geo right, one is a dessert in NM, the other in AZ.Report

  4. Avatar Chris
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    Point of clarification: is this one in base -10?Report

  5. Avatar George Turner
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    As an aside, I once put together a simple history quiz with questions like:

    Who accepted the British surrender at Saratoga?
    A) General Washington
    B) General Lincoln
    C) General Eisenhower

    This famous automatic, gravity operated decapitation device was invented by a national of this country, and that country was by far its predominant user. The country is:
    A) France
    B) Germany
    C) SpainReport

  6. Avatar Chris
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    It must have something to do with border crossings, but then I can’t figure out why it would be only these 4! I mean, Texas has border stretches with Chihuahua too.

    I suck at this stuff.Report

  7. Avatar Mark Thompson
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    States whose borders were settled by the Gadsden Purchase?Report

    • Avatar Lyle in reply to Mark Thompson
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      Recall that the Gasden Purchase Border started at the Rio Grande, (where Today Texas, New Mexico and Chihuahua meet. It then proceeded west thru Sonora to the Colorado River, which Forms the border both between Az and Alta California (us California) and between Sonora and Baja California Norte. So essentially the Gasden border is the South Border of Az and NM, and the north border of Chihuahua and Sonora.Report

  8. Avatar Glyph
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    Mogollon territory?Report

  9. Avatar kenB
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    Google provides a possible answer — since that’s cheating, I’ll rot13 it…

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  10. Avatar Mike Schilling
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    Tuesday hint:

    If these states were listed in increasing order, rather than alphabetical, the result would be:

    Chihuahua, New Mexico, Sonora, Arizona.Report

  11. Avatar Dan Miller
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    Is it states ranked by tequila or agave production?Report

  12. Avatar Boegiboe
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    Is it “states with evidence of Stone-Age cultures”?Report

  13. Avatar Burt Likko
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    My next guess will be “open pit uranium mines.”Report

  14. Avatar Mike Schilling
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    Wednesday hint:

    The list stops at five (yes, five. I blame the internet) because at that point it hits a constraint. If we ignore that and keep going, the first ten members in ascending order are:

    Chihuahua, New Mexico, Sonora, Arizona, Sinaloa, Texas, Baja California, Durango, Coahuila, Colorado.

    Naively, you might expect Texas to be first rather than sixth.Report

  15. Avatar Mo
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    Pima Indian tribe population?Report

  16. Avatar Mike Schilling
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    Second Wednesday hint: the answer is about the states’ capitals.Report

  17. Avatar Boegiboe
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    States whose capitals are continuously inhabited cities founded by Native Americans before the arrival of Europeans.Report

  18. Avatar Don Zeko
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    Well we know that Mike likes math, and the selected states are all in close geographic proximity to each other. Maybe it has something to do with the latitude or longitude of the relevant state capitols?Report

  19. Avatar Mike Schilling
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    Thursday hint:

    @don-zeko is thinking in the right direction. Everything you need to find the answer can be seen on a map.Report

  20. Avatar Mark Thompson
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    Distance of the capital from the Rio Grande?Report

    • Avatar Chris in reply to Mark Thompson
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      I was going to say distance from the border, but why would Colorado be there then, and Mexicali’s almost on the border, so Baja would be #1? Denver’s pretty far from the border. And Santa Fe is pretty much on the Rio Grande, so like Mo says, NM would have to be first, but it’s second.

      Maybe it has something to do with the number of alien landings.Report

  21. Avatar Michael Cain
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    States with capitals within 500 miles of Ciudad Juarez. It may not be the answer, but I believe it matches all of the given conditions.Report

    • Avatar Chris in reply to Michael Cain
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      I wonder, if that is the answer, what the “constraint” is that he mentioned in the Wednesday hint.Report

      • Avatar Michael Cain in reply to Chris
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        500 miles. Mo’s answer of El Paso above is probably also correct, with that addition. Maybe a better match to the hint about naively thinking Texas should be first. I’ve always thought El Paso should be part of New Mexico. The distance from El Paso to Albuquerque is less than half the distance to Austin, and El Paso is part of the Western Interconnect electrical grid, not the Texas Interconnect. The El Paso-Las Cruces metropolitan statistical area spans the border. And with >800,000 people in El Paso County, they’d be a huge influence in New Mexico’s politics.Report

      • Avatar Chris in reply to Chris
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        Ah, yes. It looks like Austin is 526 miles from Juarez as the crow flies, which would put it just above 500 miles, and Texas is the first addition in Mike’s Wednesday hint.Report

      • Avatar Michael Cain in reply to Chris
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        On the topic of attaching El Paso to New Mexico, probably worth noting that politically El Paso is solidly Democratic, which is a better match to New Mexico than it is to Texas.Report

      • Avatar Chris in reply to Chris
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        Yeah, with the exception of Fort Worth, I believe all of the major cities in Texas are solidly Democratic. I wish we could take Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Austin, and El Paso and create a new state altogether, and let Fort Worth and suburban/rural Texas do its own thing.Report

  22. Avatar Mike Schilling
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    Mo and Michael Cain are close enough that I’m going to declare them joint winners. The precise answer is “States whose capitals are closer to El Paso than its own state’s capital is.” As for Chris’s assumption that the question would be unfair, 50 points from Slytherin!Report

    • Avatar Chris in reply to Mike Schilling
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      Once again, you have proven yourself to be evil! Pure, unadulterated evil. Hilarious evil, perhaps, but evil nonetheless!Report

    • Avatar Michael Cain in reply to Mike Schilling
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      Interesting. Dalhart, TX is closer to the capitals of New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, Oklahoma, Nebraska, and Kansas than it is to Austin. I always forget just how far north the Panhandle sticks up.Report

    • Avatar Michael Cain in reply to Mike Schilling
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      Outside of the Northeast statelets, I wonder which pair of state capitals are closest together? Just by eye, looks like it might be Sacramento and Carson City.Report

      • Avatar Mike Schilling in reply to Michael Cain
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        You’re probably right. The other pair that comes to mind is Annapolis and Richmond, but they’re a bit further apart.Report

      • Avatar Burt Likko in reply to Michael Cain
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        Boston and Providence are 41 miles apart (or about twenty minutes the way most Rhode Islanders drive).

        Annapolis and Dover are about 53 1/2 miles apart. Boston and Concord are 64 miles apart. Providence and Hartford are 66 miles apart. Sacramento and Carson City are 101 miles apart.Report

      • Avatar Michael Cain in reply to Michael Cain
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        Yes, but those all involve the NE statelets that I intentionally excluded. I mean, with Boston as the capital of Massachusetts, it’s probably impossible to have a city inside RI that’s a hundred miles away. As Will and I point out from time to time, the West has counties bigger than some of the statelets. Riverside County is not only more than twice as large as Delaware by area, it’s got more than twice as many people. Ditto for Clark County, Nevada. I understand the historical factors, but there are days when I think some consolidation might be in order.Report

      • Avatar Mark Thompson in reply to Michael Cain
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        Of course it bears mention that a number of the northeastern statelets have fairly large populations – NJ is the 11th largest by population, MA the 14th, MD the 19th, and CT the 29th. Even ME (41), NH (42), RI (43), and DE (45) have larger populations than the Dakotas, Alaska, and Wyoming, and are about equal with Montana.

        Vermont could probably stand to merge with NH, though. And I’d be thrilled if we could merge Delaware into Maryland – that way I’d only have to drive through one state that I despise with all my soul on my once-regular but now-less-regular drives down to Virginia.Report

      • Avatar Will Truman in reply to Michael Cain
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        Other interesting trivia Idaho and Maine have a whole lot in common. There is even a bit of a potato rivalry between them.

        Another interesting factoid: Rhode Island has the most per-capita representation in the US House (one for just over half a million). Montana has the least (one for a million). Fifty thousand people separate them, right at the line that gives Rhode Island two reps.Report

      • Avatar Burt Likko in reply to Michael Cain
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        Oh, I also checked on Google Earth – Denver and Cheyenne are 98 miles apart, closer than Sacramento and Carson City. All distances as the crow flies, not on the Interstate.

        But, I’m being nationalist. Tlaxcala is 19 miles from Puebla. (Cities, not states; both capital cities bear the same name as their states.) That’s way closer than any capitals, either in or out of New England.Report

      • Avatar Mike Schilling in reply to Michael Cain
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        Vatican City is inside Rome.Report

  23. Avatar Burt Likko
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    A “statelet” is in the eye of the beholder, then, as apparently is New England: I wouldn’t identify either Maryland or Delaware as being in New England. If you ask me, when you’re in or south of New York, you’re not in New England. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, necessarily.

    I can see calling Delaware a “statelet” but IMO Maryland has a fair amount of geographic territory even with its skinny little panhandle, and with its great population density in Baltimore and the DC ‘burbs, Maryland has a substantial amount of people living within that territory.Report

  24. Avatar Kazzy
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    “States whose capitals are closer to El Paso than its own state’s capital is.”

    I’m sorry, maybe I’m a moron, but this makes no sense to me. Can someone explain it?Report

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