More Data on Stop-and-Frisk

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Kazzy

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  1. Avatar Damon says:

    Even if it doesn’t create criminals, it pisses people off. Scenario: So office doughnut stops someone, frisks them, maybe pushes them up against a well, smack talks ’em, and generally, is discourteous to his employer. Think they’ll give a damn when he’s behind the 8 ball? Think they’ll believe him when they are called for jury duty? Think he’ll get the benefit of the doubt on any “mistakes” he makes? Think they will vote for increased taxes for him to continue to harrass them on the street? Nope. And even if they know he’s in the right, or it’s just a mistake, now’s the chance to get even, and they’ll take it. And that’s not even taking race into consideration.Report

    • Avatar Reformed Republican says:

      Think they’ll give a damn when he’s behind the 8 ball? Think they’ll believe him when they are called for jury duty? Think he’ll get the benefit of the doubt on any “mistakes” he makes? Think they will vote for increased taxes for him to continue to harrass them on the street? Nope.

      Well, at least there is something positive that will come from all this. /snark

      Respect is a two-way street. When cops show utter disrespect for the people they are supposed to serve and protect, they will not have any respect in return.

      As far as labeling, it makes sense to me. If a person avoids certain activities because they want to stay out of trouble with the law, but they end up in trouble with the law anyway, they lose the incentive to avoid those activities. If you are going to suffer the negative consequences of criminal activity, you might as well take advantage of some of the benefits as well.Report

  2. Avatar Jaybird says:

    The point of power is exercising it. The point of power is power.Report

  3. Avatar Jaybird says:

    And someone please explain to me if I’m wrong but isn’t this policy racist? I mean, like, we can use the word “racist” for real and not just the “I need to win this argument but I’ve only got two minutes” version?Report

  4. Avatar Kazzy says:

    I sincerely hoped that conservatives would recognize just how harmful profiling can be when they were wrongly and unfairly profiled by the IRS. Unfortunately, such does not seem to be the case.Report

  5. Avatar Vikram Bath says:

    FYI, there is a somewhat lengthy literature supporting the general idea that for youngsters contact with the justice system can lead to more future crime than it deters–at least in some situations. A few brief searches uncover that it stretches back to at least the 70s.

    This study, for example, finds the phenomenon with males (though not with females, possibly because they are more risk averse):
    http://bjc.oxfordjournals.org/content/29/4/336.shortReport