Thursday Night Bar Fight #7: All Hail the Chief!
Good news, everyone!
Finally admitting to ineptitude and corruption, each of the two major political parties is throwing in the towel and admitting that as a general rule they’re really terrible at picking candidates. Seeing no other reasonable and realistic alternative, each has approached the League to choose its 2016 nominees for President and Vice President.
More good news: SCOTUS has just ruled that we are allowed to use the same Imaginotoriumators we used to repel the alien invasion last week, if needed. Further, they have ruled that any candidate from an Imaginotoriumator is considered constitutionally valid. The candidates therefore could be from a non-U.S. place of origin, deceased, or entirely fictional. (Though the previous SCOTUS decision on Gods, Sons of Gods or Demigods does still hold.)
If you pick someone who is not currently a member of the party for which they are being nominated, you must make an argument for why he or she would make a good match for that party and its stated ideals. Once both POTUS and VP candidates are in, the election will be held in the standard fashion.
There are, of course, a few catches.
In addition to possessing their inherent strengths, each candidate will also carry the burden of their inherent weaknesses. You must therefore weigh the strengths of character of a George Washington or Abraham Lincoln against the need for them to catch up on quite a bit of history, Constitutional law and technology. Similarly, while the mind of a Thomas Jefferson might serve our country well, you’ll want to consider whether or not having been a slave owner makes him unelectable.
As well, your excitement and admiration for a candidate does not guarantee that others will share that enthusiasm. A candidate that has certain great qualities and lacks charisma or rubs people the wrong way, therefore, may either not be able to win an election or not be able to lead once elected.
Also, you should be aware that trying to game the system is highly risky. Each party reserves the right to veto our choice after we make it, and will do so if they believe we are trying to tank them. Should this happen, the rules state that the vetoing party’s nomination will go to the most bat-s**t crazy, radical, extreme, partisan hack in their entire party apparatus; the primary election would then be replaced by a coin toss. Because of this, it would be unwise to either nominate a “sandbag” candidate for the party you wish to lose, or choose a candidate that really represents your own party. If you are a Democrat trying to force a liberal victory by putting up a Hilary Clinton for the GOP, for example, you’ll be a bad coin flip away from four years of a Dick Morris–Kathy Shaidle administration.
Lastly, the country will be well aware of your part in choosing the candidates. Pick a great administration and you’ll be something of a hero to the country at large. Get too experimental and pick a dud and it will be hard to find anyone willing to hire, date, or not give you wedgies for the next four years.
And therein lies this Thursday Night Bar Fight quandary:
Who in all of space an time shall we nominate for both the Republican and Democratic ticket for 2016?
The country and its future is in your hands.
Ready? Go!
Republican: Conor Friedersdorf. The bad is that he is under 35. The good is that it will be really interesting. I don’t agree with him on a lot of things. Other vote: Harry Andrew Blackmun. I always had a soft spot for Justice Blakmun.
Democratic: John Rawls. I would like to see A Theory of Justice become actual practice.Report
When do we get the results from last week’s bar fight?Report
I don’t know that there were any results from last week. Just good, old fashioned fighting.Report
Areny you a bit early. One has to see the results of the midterm elections to make a reasonable selection. Some may win by not as much as expected or the alternative. (add also the elections this coming nov as well). Anyway IMHO its far to early to think about this, except if you have nothing else to worry about.Report
We are not early. We are right on time. That the Thursday Night Bar Fight asks the question makes it so.
Thursday Night Bar Fight cannot fail; it can only be failed.Report
Republican: Olympia Snowe. She’s qualified. For VP, Kim Wymen, Secretary of State in Washington. And I picked her because she was the only other female Republican candidate I could find on the National Federation of Republican Women who I thought I could tolerate.
Democrat: Hillary Rodham Clinton, former Secretary of State, Senator, and First Lady. V.P. Elizabeth Warren.Report
I’d certainly vote for Hillary and Elizabeth. He’ll, I’d even put Elizabeth at the top of the ticket but I suspect she’s too much of a genuine populist and anti-corporatist to win the election.Report
I would argue that Olympia Snowe would get vetoed by the modern GOP.Report
Well, the League get’s to nominate. So if the modern GOP get’s a choice between Olympia and Hillary. . .Report
Barbara Hafer’s a fine choice for republican.Report
whatever gets us a pay per view special of andrew jackson fighting genghis khan on the roof of the white house with sabers. even if the public hates the outcome (they’re both a-holes) all i gotta say is “i delivered the goods. jackson v. khan. suck it.”Report
I’d pay to watch.Report
Republicans — Colin Powell and Jon Huntsman.
Democrats — Russ Feingold and Barney FrankReport
Interesting………..Report
I’d resurrect Paul Wellstone to run with Feingold. Or pair him with Elizabeth Warren. Barney’s too much of a hack.Report
No Hari Seldon?Report
I’d definitely hire him as a pollster.Report
Republican: AM, of “I Have No Mouth and I must Scream” fame.
Democrat: GLaDOS.
Perhaps not the candidates America would ask for, but the ones she deserves.Report
Excellent! I like these (count this as a vote). Surely what we deserve.
I’d suggest Auto (WALL-E) as the VP with AM for the Republicans, and HAL as the VP with GLaDOS for the Democrats.Report
“Raise the debt ceiling, HAL.”
“I’m sorry, Dave. I’m afraid I can’t do that.”Report
Nice one!
“I’ve just picked up a fault in the SSM policy unit. It’s going to go 100% failure in 3 years.”Report
For the GOP I nominate Teddy Roosevelt. I’ll think about the Dems.Report
I’d like to see Teddy Roosevelt run, but I have no idea which party (neither?) he could run in. His position on inheritance taxes would make the GOP nomination impossible, I think.Report
Just about everything about Teddy Roosevelt would rub the modern GOP raw. One reason to pick him.
I was considering Margaret Sanger for the Dems.Report
GOP: Rand Paul and Justin Amash.
Democrats: Ron Wyden and Jim Webb. Replacing Wyden with Feingold would be okay.Report
For the Republicans – Johnny Cash.
For the Democrats – George Clinton.Report
We Got the Funk!!!!!!!!!!Report
GOP: Rush Limbaugh
Dem: Rachel MaddowReport
Holy crap.
Epic.Report
This is totally what the parties deserve.Report
I do like this.Report
Yeah, if we have to pick a winner, this one is truly what both parties deserve.Report
“Movie Stars Who Never Ran for Public Office, But Were Well Known as X”
GOP – John Wayne / Charlton Heston
DNC – Gregory Peck / Clark GableReport
You left out Henry Fonda.Report
And Magnum, PI. I hope either Rick or T.C. are Republicans in order to fill out the ticket.Report
Dunno about Magnum PI, but I would bet Rick Simon of Simon & Simon was a Republican. (The actor is, but I’d bet the character was, too.)Report
R’s:
Pres.: Captain Ahab
VP: Foghorn Leghorn
Ahab has a clear and powerful vision about what needs to be done and is single minded in his pursuit. A “decider.” He has a strong background in management, having run a high stakes, very succesful operation, travelling the world, gaining foreign policy experience, while running a business employing primarily of minorities. He is a great leader who everyone naturally wants to follow him. Moreover, the GOP is not pro-animal rights and is very pro-capital punishment for criminals. So they may gravitate to Ahab’s pro-capital punishment for whale’s stance.
Foghorn Leghorn is less principled, but will win the talk-radio crowd in the primaries. Invincible in the veep debate and great on Sunday talk shows. Also has southern charm that the New Englander, protestant Ahab lacks.
D’s
Pres: Frodo Baggins
VP: Mary Poppins
Small town, rural background is very appealing. Wounded in combat. Is very soft on criminals and liberal with punishment, as seen in his sparing Gollum. Democrats will see him as someone who is finally above seeking political power and dominion over others, someone who is morally pure and above partisanship, (not like Obama or Kennedy, not at all) only to eventually realize he too does everything out of selfish, calculating desire for the ring of power, too. (But not until his second term.)
Mary Poppins is the nanny state Democrat that we all yearn for. Her experience in education is a massive win for the D’s. Friend of working class and will bring the chimney sweep unions along with her. Could appeal to single moms. (Small problem with citizenship, but no more so than George Washington.)
Libertarians:
Pres: Don Quixote
VP: Mr. Rogers
Nothing is more quixotic than libertarianism.
Mr. Rogers will help voters feel safe that the libertarians’ more radical policy solutions won’t be so scary.Report
Frodo has a tendency to disappear at crucial moments.Report
He’s for the little guy, though.Report
Bill Pullman’s President character from ID4. My man wiped out aliens, flee a jet, and gave a damn good speech. Who cares what his positions are?Report
Kinda liking President Pullman in 1600 Penn, too.Report
This could very well be the stupidest person on the face of the earth. Perhaps we should shoot him.Report
Or historical Jesus… Cons like his social policies, Libs his expnomic ones, he’ll get the Jewish vote, Cristian vote, and he’s a PoC.Report
Nah, Jesus was *really* hard on divorce (the only excuse being the *woman* screwing around), and hard on the ‘job creators’ having a special link to the Divine. He also gave away free healthcare, and said nothing about homosexuality.Report
okay this seems fun. Note this will largely be a selection of ideological avatars.
Dem Ticket
Pres-FDR. I dont think either the right or left has ever really gotten over the new deal. I want to see it re fought with it’s creator at the helm. knew how to deal. being in the chair is probably going to be his biggest deficit running today.
VP-John Adams. As the only president from the Federalist party stood for a strong federal gov and a federal bank, both things i like. As your vp is your attack dog also works well(did sign alien and sedition acts, proof positive he was willing to kick you inna fork to win) Very good lawyer as well.
Rep Ticket.
Pres-Ronald Reagan. Largely the same reason as FDR above. Is to a great deal workable social conservatism made form. flexible when working with congressional democrats proves willingness to compromise. never seemed entirely without empathy when talking to people different then him. also willing to kick a dog to win, much like adams
VP-Adam Smith. Would represent the business wing better then anyone else on the planet. given time to catch up i could see him having a very politically winning economics platform.
Green Party
flip a coin on pres and vp.
Jacques-Yves Cousteau
Jane Goodall
They both love the planet and the beasts of field and stream.
Libertarian Party
same coin flip
Ayn Rand- represents a good chunk of libertarian belief. why not
James Hanley or Roger, wherever wants it. both have good principles and very good at breaking complex ideas down into small enough bits that even nulls could understand.
As a Side note i love the bar fights. mad Kudos tod
THIS POST IS O.G. DUDE!Report
I don’t think big business would like Smith at all.Report
I just said business. Reagan cover the corporate wing. smith covers smaller business and the monetary concerns of regular people. something the republican party could use yes?Report
What was that phrase about people involved in a trade never meeting (even to party) without plotting to screw over the general public?
And he was in favor of good public schools and good public infrastructure.Report
People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public.
And yes I did do that from memory.Report
Dick Morris-Kathy Shaidle
oh and this scares me more then anything on the planet. The taki link was like poison to my skull.Report
The ticket I’d want to win would probably be Havelock Vetinari / Adam Smith. But I don’t know how I would fit that into your party system.Report
that sounds like the party of “Trust us, we got this”
The Patrician has my vote.Report
Democrats: FDR and Woodrow Wilson.
Republicans: Moses and Saint Paul.
This on Mencken’s theory that democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard. Also in this scenario, I’m converting my life’s savings to Bitcoins.Report
not guns and cigarettes? man, you /are/ confident!Report
You can always come down to New Zealand.Report
Can I just nominate all the French peasants from the Revolution? They’d work on both sides. They will leave the country in a bit of a mess, but it’s nothing we couldn’t fix and I don’t think we’d end up with a Emperor.Report
We would end up with two things above all others, and as a virtual certainty:
1. Price controls on wheat.
2. The Catholic Church is now the official religion of the state, and no one is allowed to be anything other than Catholic.
Given the choice, I’d sooner have an emperor.Report
Well depends if we’re talking the Parisians or the folks out in the country-side, like the Vendee. Maybe we’d get some royalists, too?Report
I wouldn’t have termed the Parisians peasants. If we chose Parisians, and if we picked the right political moment, we would get price controls on bread and a compulsory Cult of the Supreme Being.
Again a bad deal, for similar reasons.Report
Aside from rhetorical flourishes, is there really all that much to recommend the French Revolution?Report
The French Revolution did all kinds of good things. The trouble is that later on it often undid them too, or else replaced them with something worse.
The French Revolution ended:
– the monarchy, of course
– the privileges of the French nobility
– entails and quitrents (technically part of the above, but very important)
– the system of censorship
– the peasants’ forced labor and other feudal obligations
– the sale of offices and hereditary succession to them
The French Revolution established:
– France’s first representative legislature
– the metric system
– protections for the freedoms of conscience, petition, assembly, and property ownership
– the right of divorce
– civic equality for Jews
– a republican tradition that endures in France to this day
Quite good work, in all. But, as I said, that same revolution later took away or radically altered a lot of these things for the worse.Report
civic equality for Jews was Napoleon, actually. Dozzit still count?Report
I’m inclined to say yes. The ball was rolling well before him.Report
Well, with any luck things would start off with a guillotining of Wall St. But despite the joy of that, the rest of it still would not be worth it.Report
“The Catholic Church is now the official religion of the state, and no one is allowed to be anything other than Catholic.”
You must have had a different French Revolution in your world, then.Report
Beginning in 1793, the French peasantry revolted against the Jacobins in the capitol, and in favor of both the monarchy and the Church. The revolt in the Vendée was among the most bloody episodes of the entire era, and it is well known to anyone who has more than a saw-it-on-television knowledge of the French Revolution.
But hey, I’m sure it feels good to talk at me like I’m an idiot. I hope you enjoyed it while it lasted.Report
Republicans: Kuznicki and (Will) Truman
Democrats: Kazzy and meReport
Awesome! First time in my life I’ll have trouble deciding which lever to pull.Report
Whaaaaaa…?
I thought I turned in my liberal card with my GMO post. Additionally, a new argument I’ve structured around abortion *might* make me pro-life.
BUT OF COURSE I’LL TAKE THE NOMINATION! BRING ON THE HOOKERS!Report
And the blow…Report
Democrats: Neil deGrasse Tyson and Carl Sagan. They would choose who would be on the top of the ticket. I’d hope that they would run as co-Presidents (guess we’d need an amendment for that, though). They’d pull the entire Green vote, as well.
Republicans: Isaac Newton and Edward Teller. Teller wouldn’t stand for anyone else being at the top of the ticket, so he’d be the Pres candidate. Newton gets the theocons to vote and Teller gets the neocons to vote.
Why? They’re scientists, and even a conservative scientist would be preferable to a politician (although, Teller is a bit frightening, I agree).
Of course, I’m setting up a win for deGrasse Tyson/Sagan because I’m immensely biased.Report
I have to say, I’m surprised to see no mention of Reagan for the GOP.Report
say what?Report
love it. mention Reagan the first day and tod cant see it. do my posts have some extra invisibility to them?Report
I would suggest Batman for the democrats.
Pros: Tough on crime, fundraising edge and business experience, experienced at working with charities.
Cons: very vulnerable to attacks from NRA on gun control issue.
For Republicans I would suggest Horatio Hornblower
Pros: Coming from the napolionic era he is very likely to be a strong social conservative, self made man with a military background.
Cons: opposed to the death penalty and against flogging. May be seen as weak on terrorist interrogations by republicans.Report
I’d assume that Batman is a Republican, at least the Frank Miller-influenced Batman.Report
Bipartisanship!Report
Democrats: Captain America for president. He’s got good foreign policy judgement (opposed the Vietnam War at high personal cost, unless I’m misremembering); obviously plenty of military experience; leadership role in the Avengers; raised by Irish immigrants in Manhattan in the ’30s so I’m assuming he’s an ardent new dealer; loved and respected nationwide.Report
The Republican dream team: Ronald Reagan and Frederick Douglass.
I think Democrats would be equally happy with Josiah Bartlet and Hillary Clinton on their ticket.Report
I’ve got to say, in refreshing myself on Douglass, I’m starting to get the appeal of Ben Carson: a strong speaker, a self-made man, advocate for education, sobriety, and faith.Report
You realize that Fox News thinks Frederick Douglass debated Lincoln.Report
1. It would have been a much better debate.
2. That Douglass would have taken Lincoln apart.Report
This is like the “NYT doesn’t know what Easter is” nonsense. One guy put up the wrong graphic on a morning show. In the clip, none of the hosts got the name wrong, and I don’t know if the hosts can see the on-screen graphics (it varies on a lot of shows). At least in that clip, I didn’t hear “Frederick” or “Stephen”. So, what am I supposed to draw from your comment?Report
Nothing much; it’s just exceptionally silly, even for cable news. Still, that was a specially constructed graphic. How many eyes must it have gone past on its way onto the air?Report
Since I’m really a monarchist at heart, I’d be happy with Queen Elizabeth I.Report
Put the Stuarts back!Report
Papist.Report
If we’re going to go to all the trouble to argue over which tsar would make for the best one, I’m going the “infallible” route.Report
Totally unrelated, but did you guys see the Taki assault on the lack of “masculinity” at the League? Sorry if this is old news….
http://takimag.com/article/this_week_in_epic_beta_male_faggotry_kathy_shaidle/page_2#axzz2Pbn3O2gaReport
Oh yes, we saw it. The front pagers discussed it on our mailing list.
Sorry about all the faggotry.Report
I, for one, have been having an unbelievable amount of sex with women since I saw it in an effort to set things straight.Report
In your case, any amount of sex with women would be unbelievable, and I’m still skeptical that you’re having that much.Report
Space awesome.Report
*blink* Okay, call me a little weird, but I thought that sexual preference and alphaness were, um… two different axes.Report
Dude, she called us *GLADIATORS*. I feel oiled up already!Report
Jaybird, do you like movies about gladiators?Report
I feel oiled up too.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/catesish/turkish-oil-wrestling-is-a-totally-legit-sportReport
Wait, doesn’t everyone else oil up before reading the League?
Man, this is really awkward.Report
I keep sliding out of my chair.Report
I guess the only question I have then, is this..
Would changing our name to The League of Oily Gladiators make any changes to readership?
Got to consider the marketing angles….Report
I think this comment might be O.G.Report
I feel so naive. I had no idea this, or she, was a thing. Is she supposed to be funny?
That’s really a word that an adult uses in their blogpost headlines? I mean, I expect it on YouTube comments, but…Report
It’s funny because she said a naughty word, teehee.
Maybe we should coin a term. Third Grader Conservatives.Report
I remember in the 70s when “faggot” was one of those Reserved For Us words, sorta like how black people use “nigger” — we can use it and don’t you breeders dare use it.
But I can’t remember the last time I heard “faggot” used even within gay circles. I think it went out with disco, around that time. Have you heard it?Report
I have heard gay friends use it. And there’s a current band (Deerhunter) with a gay frontman that named their first album Turn It Up, Faggot! in honor of some show heckling that they had received.Report
“Beta-male f****t” is like “PC” in the sense of “evil librul not going out of your way to be an asshole”. (Like right there where I neither spelled the word out nor got mad because Jason get to use it and I don’t.)Report
Kathy Shaidle is just a wannabe Ann Coulter. Mostly harmless.Report
Oy vey. I read her prior installment, where she explains why she uses the term:
Bleh.
I’ll be paying about as much attention as I do to Ann Coulter then, which is to say none if I can help it.Report
Speaking as a connoisseur of invective and cant, if you must recycle ancient vocabulary, it must pass three tests:
1. The word or phrase must have once been used in common parlance as a euphemism or standard usage.
2. It must be old enough for mean kids in the school yard to not know it.
3. The usage must never be applied in the second person as a label.
Take Negro, for example. Once it was the standard usage, even among black people. “Nigger” is merely an ignorant corruption of it and fails all three tests. So when I’m pushing in my little voodoo pin, tormenting some useless person, I use Negro to point out antiquated thinking about race-based issues.
There is a fourth rule: do not use specialised terms of art in common parlance within a given community. Case in point: I’ll never use the word “twink”. I’m not gay. Only makes the user look silly and condescending.Report
Exactly right, Blaise.Report
As I said in the thread where this was first posted – they’re happily employing John Derbyshire, who even if he wasn’t a “race realist” would be creepy as hell due to his remarks about teenage girls as a writer on The Corner. I’ll take kimmi as a representative of a site I go too over him, Kook.Report
As Jesse points out, insults from Taki’s are a badge of honor. It’s where Derbyshire sold his his “too explicitly racist even from National Review” piece, which was loudly cheered there.Report
Taki’s is just Sad. It’s where contrarians go to die. An Elephant’s Graveyard of useless persons. Steve Sailer hasn’t been welcome in polite society in a decade at least. The Derb is everyone’s horrifying great-uncle, the elderly gent who reliably stinks up polite conversation with his political views at holiday meals. Gavin McInnes, now there’s a tuneful fart in a hurricane for yez: and now for your amusement and education, Gavin McInnes will eat a live mouse.Report
Once Well-known Bloggers’ Graveyard for Reasons We Can’t Fathom = The Daily Caller
Does Steve Sailer still comment on every single thread in the blogosphere ever? It seems like his output in that sense has dropped.
Derbyshire’s story on how he found his wife in China always struck me as a little oddly told, but otherwise: http://www.johnderbyshire.com/FamilyAlbum/Marriage/page.html
I was always surprised the NRO never ran him out of there for bashing GW Bush for tax cuts, being pro choice, pro Michael Schiavo, among a whole other slate of opinions.Report
Ecch, it’s not just any one President and his Veep. The questions I’d ask are “Who can do business with Congress? Who can put the best Cabinet together?”
Far and away, the most effective president in terms of sheer legislative results was Lyndon Johnson, who had the most effective vice president ever, Hubert Humphrey. These days, the role of Veep has expanded and rightly so: the job of POTUS is now too big for any one man to handle.
LBJ’s great weakness was his ship of fools, his Cabinet. For some reason, he hung onto JFK’s cabinet and for far too long. They were the idiots who got him waist deep in Vietnam: Johnson kinda looked at that situation and said “Oh well, I’m a domestic policy sorta guy, surely Kennedy must have seen something I didn’t here, so I’ll go with McNamara’s opinions on this.” McNamara rode roughshod over the military, which had always seen Vietnam as a Tar Baby. Clark Clifford, LBJ’s second SecDef, was a far better man: he set in motion most of what we would understand today as nuclear arms reduction treaties.
Who would I choose for President and Veep from folks running around today? In that fantasy football situation, I might as well ask “who do you think would be a good QB for Green Bay?” without giving this guy the personnel to keep him alive in the pocket — or running backs or compatible wide receivers.
The best presidential timber in the yard right now is clearly Hillary Clinton. As for her Veep, I’d pick Mark Udall of Colorado.Report
For the Dems:
Pres: Hadrian – great foresight, excellent manager, pagan, knew how to handle the Levant (leave it be), and knew what to do with Christian zealots (feed to lions). Also, all the Roman emperors knew how worthless a Senate really is.
Veep: Vaclav Havel – Everything a veep should be able to do, Havel could do it better. Drink with rock stars, write poetry, he could help keep Hadrian humble.
For the Republicans:
Pres: Joan of Arc: Because Jesus could never win the nomination and they need to make some inroads with women. Also, she tends to whack all problems with a sharp stick and really is a martyr.
Veep: Winston Churchill – put that bust back where it belongs. Churchill would also help remind the Republican party who our actual eternal ally really is. And you know he could out Cheney Dick Cheney if it came to it.Report
Hadrian’s most famous act was building a wall along the border. I don’t think that would fly in today’s Democratic Party.Report
That would pull in Game of Thrones fans. They understand why you need protection from the Others.Report
Exactly how much harm are these so-called “others” responsible for? I haven’t caught up on all of the books but it seems to me that the government was responsible for a lot more dead people and property damage than undocumented migrants were.Report
Wights are just doing the jobs Westerosians won’t do.Report
Maribou told me about one scene in the show where Tywin walked in on some interrogations and started yelling about how they’re destroying skilled labor. She thought “They’re writing this guy especially for Jay.”Report
Spoilers for book 5.
Gur jubyr Ng Gur Jnyy cybg sebz Qentbaf vf nobhg Wba yrggvat va vyyrtny vzzvtenagf sebz orlbaq gur jnyy.Report
Good point. He was definitely a border security enthusiast. It would have to help that he would be the first homosexual president, though.Report
Republican: Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh (In your megacolon, you know they’re right.)
Democratic: Chris Christie and Rep. Patrick Murphy (D-Penn.) Christie can invite Springsteen to play at the inaugural, he get’s to give CPAC the mother of all neener-neener-neener’s and Murphy is an intriguing up-and-comer with a strong personal story.Report
Okay, Murphy lost in 2010, but everything else stands.Report
I will be fairly certain I’ve see this exact same form of statement somewhere else, it must be gaining popularity with all the people.Report