Damon Linker is not a pluralist

by David Schaengold · October 18, 2010

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Geoff Arnold
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October 18, 2010 at 1:12 pm
Is there a real argument here, or is your gut feeling of “wrongness” all you’re offering?Report
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Damon Linker
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October 18, 2010 at 7:23 pm
Wow, that’s a really thoughtful post. I don’t even know how to begin a response.Report
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Kolohe
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October 19, 2010 at 6:04 pm
It was a throwaway comment, but the religious right wasn’t the reason Rudy didn’t get the nomination – Rudy is the reason Rudy didn’t get the nomination. If anything, the religious right is what kept Romney from breaking through, but you state that Romney is one in the pantheon of theocon champions and you have the Mormons with the (plurality) right wing Catholics and (majority) Evangelical Protestants as a single bloc in your analysis.
Which is true as far as it goes, but I would submit has *always* been a bloc like this of cyclic waxing and waning influence in American politics (and pre-American politics i.e. the first iteration of the Great Awakening)
So, with the stated assumption that this bloc has always existed, the case to be proved is that it is somehow today a unique threat and/or ‘clear and present danger’. My quick dashed off opinion (to be sure from just the Economist interview and without reading the book) is that it has not. Not if their high water mark (and Waterloo) was Terry Schiavo. If that’s all they got, the Republic is safe from any particular danger from that avenue. They are, in other quarters, blamed for the Iraq war*, but for one, they had a lot of help from other factions, for two the iraq war wasn’t unpopular until it was turning into an intractable stalemate after a year and a half in, and for three, all the way back to the effigies of Jay lit at the signing of the eponymous treaty, we Americans have rarely encountered a war they didn’t like. (and have rarely liked a war we’ve had to endure)
One thing you could say that is unique about today’s religiously minded culturally conservative (and for the most part ex-urban) voters is that their political alliance with ‘wall street’ that started with the Buckley fusion and achieved the presidency of Ronald Reagan (and Bush II) is ahistoric and unprecedented in American history. In other eras, this demographic were the core of Jackson Democrats and William Jennings Bryan’s acolytes. But this alliance is starting to signs of cracking up (i.e. Huckabee) and another round of banking shenanigans could provide the tipping point to finally fracture it (which in turn would greatly reduce, if not eliminate, the risk you assert)
*as part of a general pattern of millennial dispensationalism and as a consequence normally has Israel as its focus, but any port in the storm working in mysterious ways and all thatReport
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Kolohe
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October 19, 2010 at 6:11 pm
Shorter me: we have always had these ‘religious nutjobs’. They have even done some real damage in the past (e.g. 18th amendment). But America abides.Report
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Roger Stone Found Guilty of All Charges

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Roger Stone Found Guilty of All Charges

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Roger Stone was found guilty on all 7 charges he faced in his Washington, DC trial.

Jurors have returned a guilty verdict on all of seven counts including five counts of lying to Congress, one count of witness tampering and one count of obstruction of a proceeding. Stone had pleaded not guilty and maintained his innocence throughout his trial in Washington, DC.
Prosecutors asked that Stone be remanded pending sentencing, citing his issues with abiding by court orders since his indictment. Stone's defense pushed back, arguing he has not broken the condition of his release.
Stone's sworn testimony in September 2017 before the House Intelligence Committee forms the basis for most of the charges in his seven-count indictment, which includes allegations he misled the committee on several key elements of their probe. Stone was also charged with witness tampering by urging his former associate, Randy Credico, to exercise his Fifth Amendment rights before the committee.
Roger Stone departs the courthouse for lunch during his trial, Nov. 13, 2019, in Washington, D.C.
With the closure of Stone's case, so ended another chapter in the special counsel's investigation. Robert Mueller and his team of prosecutors investigated Russian interference during the 2016 election and President Trump's efforts to undermine their probe for nearly two years.

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Impeachment Hearings Day 2

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Impeachment Hearings Day 2

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The public impeachment hearings resume Friday morning, with former US Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch appearing before the House Intelligence Committee:

Yovanovitch was removed as ambassador in May after Giuliani and other Trump allies attacked her in television appearances and on Twitter, claiming she was disloyal to the Trump administration. In closed-door testimony in October, she told lawmakers that Giuliani worked in tandem with Yuriy Lutsenko, a former prosecutor in Ukraine, to allege she was standing in the way of investigations into supposed Ukrainian interference in the 2016 campaign and Burisma, the energy company that had employed Hunter Biden, the former vice president's son.
Although her Ukraine tour was supposed to end in 2020, in late April she was "abruptly told" to return to Washington "on the next plane." She did not know why she was being recalled and met with the deputy secretary of state, who told her Mr. Trump "had lost confidence" in her "and no longer wished me to serve as his ambassador." The secretary also told her there had been "a concerted campaign against" her, and there had been pressure to remove her since 2018.
Yovanovitch was also mentioned in Mr. Trump's July 25 call with the president of Ukraine. The president said she was "bad news" and "going to go through some things," according to the White House summary of the call.
Her removal and treatment by the administration rankled many officials in the State Department, one of whom resigned in September over the secretary of state's failure to publicly defend her.

The hearing can be viewed here and join the commentareum in discussing events as they unfold.

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Impeachment Gets Wall-to-Wall Coverage, So So Ratings

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Impeachment Gets Wall-to-Wall Coverage, So So Ratings

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The ratings are in for the first public impeachment hearings in 20 years:

It was just by a hair, but the debut of the impeachment hearings against Donald Trump yesterday beat Robert Mueller’s testimony before Congress earlier this year …barely.
With a grand total of 13,098,000 Americans tuning in to watch the televised opening of the House Select Committee on Intelligence questioning on Wednesday, Ambassador William Taylor and Deputy Secretary of State George Kent topped the 12.9 million who saw the former FBI Director’s circumspect stint in the hot seat on July 25.
Having said that with Nielsen numbers from Fox News Channel. MSNBC, ABC, CNN, CBS and NBC now in, the 10 AM – 3:30 PM ET hearing stumbled against another big ticket testimony. The Wednesday event, that the former Celebrity Apprentice host insists he didn’t watch, was down a hard 32% from the audience that eyed pink slipped FBI Director James Comey’s appearance before our elected representatives in June 2017.

Of note, Fox News lead all networks with 2.9 Million viewers, followed by MSNBC (2.7 million), ABC (2 million), CBS (1.9 million), CNN (1.85 million), and NBC (1.7 million). The number was close the the viewship of the Mueller testimony, and nearly 32% less than the 2017 testimony of James Comey, the highest-rated congressional testimony of the Trump Administration.

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Public Impeachment Hearings Begin

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Public Impeachment Hearings Begin

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The first public hearings in House Democrats' Impeachment inquiry are set to kick off today in the House Intelligence Committee.

The House impeachment inquiry is set to burst into public view on Wednesday, as two key witnesses who raised concerns about efforts to pressure Ukraine will testify in the first open hearings of the probe.
Bill Taylor, the top diplomat in the U.S. embassy in Ukraine, and George Kent, the deputy assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian Affairs, will appear before the House Intelligence Committee to face questions from lawmakers and committee staff.
Both have already testified behind closed doors, and told members about they became increasingly alarmed that a delay in military aid to Ukraine was tied to the country launching investigations that would benefit the president politically.
Who is Bill Taylor?
William Taylor is the top U.S. diplomat to Ukraine, the chargé d'affaires. A West Point graduate and former U.S. Army officer, he earned a Bronze Star for his service in Vietnam, and has been a public servant for more than 50 years.
He has served in a variety of diplomatic roles under presidents of both parties, including a stint as the U.S. ambassador to Ukraine from 2006 to 2009.
In his closed-door testimony in October, he said U.S. aid to Ukraine had been explicitly tied to Ukraine's willingness to investigate Mr. Trump's political rivals. He also spoke of an "irregular channel" of policymaking including Giuliani, Energy Secretary Rick Perry, U.S. Ambassador to the E.U. Gordon Sondland and Kurt Volker, special envoy to Ukraine.
According to Taylor, there was a concerted effort by what he referred to as this "irregular, informal channel of U.S. policy-making" to pressure Ukraine to commit to opening investigations into unproven allegations of Ukrainian interference in the 2016 U.S. election, as well as into the gas company Burisma.
Who is George Kent?
George Kent is the deputy assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs, overseeing State Department policy toward a number of countries, including Ukraine.
A longtime diplomat, Kent served as deputy chief of mission in the U.S. embassy in Kiev from 2015 to 2018, according to his State Department biography. He previously worked on anti-corruption State Department initiatives in Europe.
Kent provided closed-door testimony echoing Taylor's statements to Congress. He said three officials had declared themselves in charge of Ukraine policy in May: Gordon Sondland, Kurt Volker and Rick Perry.
Kent also said Giuliani had engaged in a "campaign of slander" with no basis in fact against U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch.

Live stream of the hearings is available here from CBSN.com

Discuss all the days events with the Commentareum here at Ordinary Times.

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Pete Buttigieg Tops Latest Iowa Polling

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Pete Buttigieg Tops Latest Iowa Polling

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Monmouth has new polling out of Iowa, and it has Team Pete feeling good, everyone else feeling anxious, and lots of people asking questions.

[caption id="attachment_322410" align="aligncenter" width="750"] Pete Buttigieg at the Iowa State Fair. Photo by Gage Skidmore via Wikimedia Commons[/caption]

New Monmouth poll of Iowa, trend since August:
Buttigieg: 22% (+14)
Biden: 19% (-7)
Warren: 18% (-2)
Sanders: 13% (+5)
Klobuchar: 5% (+2)
Harris: 3% (-9)
Steyer: 3% (-)
Yang: 3% (+2)
Booker: 2% (+1)
Gabbard: 2% (+1)
Bullock: 1% (-)
Castro: 1% (+1)
Klobuchar closer to Dec debate
— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) November 12, 2019