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William Brafford

William Brafford grew up in North Carolina, home of the world's best barbecue, indie rock, and regional soft drinks. He just barely sustains a personal blog and "tweets" every now and then under the name @williamrandolph.

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  1. Ryan says:

    “I wonder if gender and race are used to undermine legitimacy so that normal political processes can be cast as abnormal.”

    Hmm, yeah, I wonder…

    No, I’m sure it’s just perfectly legitimate opposition. I’m sure if Kerry had won in 2004, we’d have spent half of 2005 having an inane argument about his birth certificate. No racism here. And there was certainly no sexism about Hillary during the Clinton administration. Or Janet Reno for that matter.Report

    • William Brafford in reply to Ryan says:

      It looks like that sentence turned stupid during revision… it should say something more like “. . . if gender and race functioned similarly in these cases. . .”; with the thing I’m wondering about being the media environment regarding Hillary Clinton in 1993. Writing fail on my part.Report

  2. E.D. Kain says:

    Someone might ask: but wasn’t the ferocity of the left’s opposition to Bush equally incomprehensible? Frankly, no. If the left’s view of Bush is correct, we’ve got a war criminal taking over two nations and killing lots of people in the process. If the right’s view of Obama is correct, we’ve got a politician implementing awful, inefficient, costly policies by accepted procedures. To me, it makes more sense for real anger to follow from the former than from the latter.

    Very much agreed. The very thought that pops to mind when “But the Left did it first” is uttered.Report

    • Kyle in reply to E.D. Kain says:

      Those are fair points, but I think if you except the period between 9/11 and the start of Operation Enduring Freedom, the left – especially fringe left – was incredibly hostile to President Bush before the allegations of war criminality surfaced. Though, I would add that the circumstances of his first election probably account for the disapproval echoed in the first months of the administration.

      However, the thing that strikes me as both interesting and perhaps a little frustrating is that during the Bush years, practically every other person (admittedly I lived in California and attended university during those years) couldn’t talk about politics without casually insulting or ranting about the President and the bookstores were filled with outright nasty books. Today, the only place I see people angry with President Obama is on the news…or the news covering youtube. Moreover, with the exception of the always crazy Jim DeMint, there aren’t 15 different books on shelves calling the President a socialist, fascist, egotistical, racist…or whatever Glenn Beck is saying these days.

      Which isn’t to say there isn’t much anger but I do think coverage of people who hate President Obama substantially outsizes people who actually do.Report

      • William Brafford in reply to Kyle says:

        That was a weird election in 2000, wasn’t it?

        Here’s where I wish I were a social scientist, because my Bush-years experience in North Carolina was rather different… and I don’t think trading anecdotes would do much to give us a fuller or more representative picture.

        I should have mentioned that I was listening to a call-in show on local talk radio yesterday afternoon, and I heard some pretty epic rants about our President. But, again — is this in any way representative? I’ve no idea.Report

        • Kyle in reply to William Brafford says:

          Couldn’t agree more. In fact my anecdotal experience – being so removed from what CNN tells me the American people are feeling – really makes me curious just what opinions are nationally and I always wish news outlets/pollsters would/could unpack their poll results a more than they do.Report

      • E.D. Kain in reply to Kyle says:

        Moreover, with the exception of the always crazy Jim DeMint, there aren’t 15 different books on shelves calling the President a socialist, fascist, egotistical, racist…or whatever Glenn Beck is saying these days.

        Just wait.Report