Sarah Sarah Quite Contraire


Chris Dierkes

Chris Dierkes (aka CJ Smith). 29 years old, happily married, adroit purveyor and voracious student of all kinds of information, theories, methods of inquiry, and forms of practice. Studying to be a priest in the Anglican Church in Canada. Main interests: military theory, diplomacy, foreign affairs, medieval history, religion & politics (esp. Islam and Christianity), and political grand bargains of all shapes and sizes.

Related Post Roulette

29 Responses

  1. Avatar Katherine says:

    How could she be credible as a Presidential candidate, though, with only 2 1/2 years as governor of a state? She’s no more qualified now than she was in November, and then she was only running for VP. How can anyone outside the hard-core base take her seriously?Report

  2. Because of one word — Obama — and his far less experience in anything when he made it to pres.Report

    • Avatar Katherine says:

      But Obama had several years at the state level and then a term as Senator. And unlike Palin, he actually demonstrated that he was well versed in the issues
      before he ran.

      Palin was mayor of a small town, and then governor of the smallest (population-wise) state for 2 1/2 years; that might be enough, at a stretch, if she showed that she really understood the issues and had good ideas, but she has shown the absolute opposite in every media appearance she has had.Report

  3. Avatar greginak says:

    But what kind of crisis could this nation face, that sarah would be the answer to? If we had a military/terrorism crisis would sarah be in any way a solution to that? Other repubs maybe, but will anybody but her rabid followers see her wink and you betcha act as what is needed for cope with another 911.

    FWIW i knew a lot of conservatives here is Ak who didn’t like her for all the same reasons many americans don’t like her. They dropped all that, in a fearless display of lack of character, when she was nominated for VP. This will not play well with many of her supporters here. There will be some more stories about her coming out now that people will be angry, betrayed and don’t have to worry about her vengeance. However Alaska has never particularly mattered so she may not be dragged down by that. At best this is a high risk gamble.Report

  4. Avatar Ron says:

    More information on “grassroots” supporters gathering across the nation to support Sarah Palin for President in 2012 can be found online at

    Note, the website is in danger of crashing due to the flood of readers and supporters signing up to show their interest in a Palin Candidacy. The GOP establishment had better watch out, Sarah Palin and Ron Paul combined with the power of the internet will remove the stranglehold of GOP special interests and the elites who have brought the party to its knees in defeat in the 2008 elections.Report

    • Avatar Katherine says:

      Yes, that’s why Kagan thought she was so wonderful and her “non-elite” ignorance of foreign policy didn’t matter.

      Ignorance doesn’t make someone free from special interests; it makes them extremely manipulable. Find a person who knows little or nothing of an issue, feed them your talking points, and further the meme that they’re “populists” – that’s any special interest group’s dream.Report

    • Avatar Travis says:

      Sarah Palin and Ron Paul combined?

      You can’t find two people who are farther apart politically and are still both Republicans. That would be quite possibly the worst ticket since… well, since McCain/Palin.Report

  5. Matthew Dallman:
    Except that Obama never resigned from office before he was elected Preaident. Hell, he even showed up for some votes. Palin could have filled out the rest of her term then ran(it’d still give her 2 years). Don’t you think Pawlenty, Mittens and Col. James Braddock’s BFF will run those “Cut and Run” ads against Sarah? That’s what is going to kill her. How many people will the Presidency when they don’t already hold some political office? Nixon? Ray-gun? Eisenhower? What about before Ike? It can be done, just not that often.Report

  6. Avatar Travis says:

    To me, the scandal breaking is the only thing that makes sense here. If you weren’t trying to essentially go quietly into the night, why would you quit on Friday afternoon of 4th of July weekend?Report

  7. Avatar Nancy Irving says:

    Palin is no Huey Long.Report

  8. Avatar Bob Cheeks says:

    Sadly, she quit for a reason not revealed. Nothing else makes sense, though I’m sure she’s tired of the frivolous law suits and the related expense. If there’s no ‘scandal’ hidden there somewhere, I think she’s just saying ‘the hell with it.’Report

  9. “The thought of her anywhere near actual federal power keeps me awake at night.”

    That would be a lie, Dierkes, and you know it. Along with the nonsense that “I’ve always thought Huckabee was the front runner”. Really . . . always? Truth, or typical cute convenient rhetorical trick. You choose.Report

  10. Avatar matoko_chan says:

    She didnt jump, she was pushed.
    Guess we’ll find out the push-force.
    She continues to be absolutely clueless…..that “prayed on it” is the kiss of death in American politics.Report

  11. Avatar matoko_chan says:

    Also…Obama started running with his speech at the DNC convention.
    In 2004.Report

  12. Avatar matoko_chan says:

    And Stein is wrong.
    That spate of hastely contrived Heartland Pageant Speak is just cover for her real reasons, w/e they might be.
    Its like Miss Congenality or the second runner-up doing a facesaving climbdown from her ambitions.
    “I didn’t really want the crown anyways.”Report

  13. Avatar Bob Cheeks says:

    Mike, brilliant! She does seem to have to learn a great deal plus she’s not a natural “smack ’em in the mouth’ kind of debater, yet she appeals to many people with her very simple message. By the time the Big O has his four years in my old dog, Buck, might be able to beat him.
    I’m putting you in at CBS to replace the churlish, tight-assed, Katie!
    And, finally, my condolences to all the kids here at LOOG on the passing of MJ!Report

  14. Avatar mike farmer says:

    Thanks, Bob, I will try do a good job as Katie’s replacement. I want to interview Barney Frank first.Report

  15. Avatar Alex says:

    Why isn’t Mitt Romney in the conversation? Personally, I think he may be the best Republican candidate for 2012.Report

    • Avatar Chris Dierkes says:

      Romney I think has the backing of the establishment conservatives (he did last time around and I assume will again in ’12). But for me he’s just so awkward and robotic. He’s so uncomfortable and in the age of television that matters. Whether it should or not is a different question, but it does. He’s technocratic and in the end he says what’s popular, so he doesn’t scare me like Palin does (although I wouldn’t vote for him) but we’ll see. He had everything set up for him in 2008 but couldn’t seal the deal. Hard to imagine that chance coming around twice, but who knows. The Republican Party is really lost and someone eventually is going to have to become the leader, if only for a short period of time.

      My own sense is the GOP would do much better to drop its Reaganomics tax cutting mania and focus on the development of the middle class a la Douthat and Salam’s Grand New Party. Romney is not that guy. He’s clearly a plutocrat and into “flood-up” economics. Pawlenty could be that person as could Huckabee. Palin in theory could be as well I suppose, except she really wants to win over the paleo-libertarian crew with her emphasis on getting gov’t out and is playing the classic GOP card of getting middle class votes through culture war stuff while screwing them economically.Report

      • Avatar Bob Cheeks says:

        Chris, why don’t you and the league and Mike and ect talk about a rising third party; as in who and how and why. I should find that of interest…or have I missed the debate?Report

      • As far as I’m concerned, anyone who describes L.Ron Hubbard’s “opus” Battlefied Earth as their favorite movie is automatically disqualified from the Presidency. I’ve got no issue with Mormons; Scientologists are another matter.Report

  16. Avatar mike farmer says:

    I can’t get a handle on Romney — he does seem robotic.

    Contrary to popular belief, I think a viable third party is possible. If the Republicans can’t overcome the Democrat advantage, they may leave a vacuum which makes a third party a reality — especially, if the Democrats look like they have only about 40% support, and the independent numbers continue to grow. It would require a herculean organizational effort. I have to believe power brokers are talking about this behind the scenes.Report

  17. Avatar Clint says:

    Mitt Romney is turning over in his (well-coifed) political grave at not being mentioned in a thread on the 2012 GOP nomination. With the fall of other credible conservative options (Jindal’s state of the union address, Mark Sanford’s fathers’ day, etc), the nomination is Romney’s for the taking.Report

    • Avatar Chris Dierkes says:


      I dig the phrase well-coiffed grave. I think it was supposed to be set up for him in ’08 but Huckabee ruined it. There are even less moderates and economic Republicans then there were last time. The social conservative component of the GOP is only growing. I don’t see how he wins them. They vote on personal identification (Reagan, Bush II, Huck/Palin) never mind Romney’s Mormonism which only makes it that much harder for him. As I said before, I really think to win the GOP is going to have to come with a different economic platform and Romney could never realistically sell a middle class outreach.Report

      • Avatar Katherine says:

        The social conservative component of the GOP is only growing. I don’t see how he wins them. They vote on personal identification (Reagan, Bush II, Huck/Palin) never mind Romney’s Mormonism which only makes it that much harder for him.

        I don’t think this is right at all. There’s little evidence from the primaries that evangelicals have a problem with Romney. He won most of the caucuses and the red states outside the south, which indicates that his popularity was strongest with the Republican base. The south voted for Huckabee, but I expect that’s mainly due to regional affinity rather than an antipathy towards Mormons. And Romney doesn’t need the south – he’s not a moderate (his statements in the 2008 primary were doctrinaire talking-point Republicanism) but he may be able to present himself as one due to his stint as Mass. governor and I don’t see anyone who has a better chance of winning primaries in the large blue states.

        Barring some new, as-yet-unforeseen candidate, the nomination in 2012 will be Romney’s.Report

        • Avatar Chris Dierkes says:


          You may be right. Romney won some states out West (where he is strong) and some uncontested ones but he just wears poorly. By all rights it should be his–he’s got the money, he’s got business background, well organized. But he just doesn’t have that thing.

          No Republican won in the 20th (and 21st) century without Ohio. Could Romney win Ohio? Being a native Buckeye, I gotta say no. Romney could in theory put pressure on Obama out West (Nevada, Colorado shading purple/blue, New Mexico). But he’s weak in the Midwest.

          In terms of whether Romney is a moderate or social con, he’s really a politician who’ll say anything. He ran in Mass where being socially liberal was popular so that’s what he was. He ran for GOP nomination and so he became a social con (in rhetoric). He just comes off so gimmicky–national security was in so he promised to Double Gitmo. He’s just very goofy. But the GOP nomination is much shorter than the Dems. If he wins NH, NV, then he needs to win Florida then it’s his.Report