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Nathan P. Origer says:
April 8, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Ohmigawsh!
(I still love their Robin Hood, but, still, w.t.f.?!)
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E.D. Kain says:
April 8, 2009 at 2:55 pm
I showed this to a girl at work a minute ago and she was totally flabbergasted. She used the word “betrayal” a few times. Seriously…
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Joseph FM says:
April 9, 2009 at 10:56 am
Do you know what the working conditions were like on those old Disney movies? I imagine the animators would take any shortcut they could! It’s not like they could outsource this stuff to Korea like we do today.
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E.D. Kain says:
April 9, 2009 at 10:57 am
We don’t outsource everything, you know…and I’m hardly buying into the idea that working conditions for animators could have been that bad in what…the 60’s and 70’s?
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7 mins ago

to Michele Kerr

A Teacher

+ For what it's worth I've not complained about you at all. If you think I requested a moderator's commentary you are mistaken. I wish you [. . .]

For what it's worth I've not complained about you at all. If you think I requested a moderator's commentary you are mistaken.

I wish you the best in your pursuits in the classroom. I am going to assume that we simply aren't expressing ourselves well here because I find your point of view when it comes to the rights of your transgender students to exist and be respected to be as puzzling, and frankly horrifying, as I'm sure you find my inability to "not advocate politics".

I won't stop not only enforcing civility but also advocating acceptance of my students.

I've saved lives by it.

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When Schools Get Political, What Should Teachers Do?

16 mins ago

to A Teacher

Michele Kerr

+ "At the time it was a “political issue”." Wrong. That would be an educational issue. And, by the way, I know of no law ever that [. . .]

"At the time it was a “political issue”."

Wrong. That would be an educational issue.

And, by the way, I know of no law ever that banned schools from teaching science to girls. So advocating for it would not be advocating for a law change.

Also by the way, you now appear to be telling me what *I'd* do. Incorrectly. Please note that I'm unperturbed and uncomplaining.

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When Schools Get Political, What Should Teachers Do?

22 mins ago

to Michele Kerr

A Teacher

+ Michele Kerr: “Teachers should not advocate for civil rights.” Not in the classroom or school community. In other words: In 1950 you would have been silent when a girl asked [. . .]

Michele Kerr:
“Teachers should not advocate for civil rights.”
Not in the classroom or school community.

In other words:

In 1950 you would have been silent when a girl asked to take a science class.

At the time it was a "political issue".

You suggest this is just a straw man, yet sure seems to be your exact position in a nutshell. Civil rights are political, and political statements in the classroom don't belong. If a student were to say "blacks are just unfit to vote like whites", that can be said with civility, but should be shown some kind of respect as a "political point of view".

Nothing in my 20 years of teaching suggest the right there is to say "well, that's your opinion".

I'm sorry.

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When Schools Get Political, What Should Teachers Do?

36 mins ago

to A Teacher

Michele Kerr

+ Given how much you are conflating and inferring, I'm a bit hesitant to discuss this further, because I think you will see no distinction. "Schools [. . .]

Given how much you are conflating and inferring, I'm a bit hesitant to discuss this further, because I think you will see no distinction.

"Schools and school staff must remain neutral on all issues of politics."

Schools and school staff are government employees. They should not advocate for political outcomes in their status as government employees. That's entirely different from saying they must be neutral. I see no problem in teachers telling their students their own political views, although increasingly that's risky in these litigious times. But I see nothing wrong in a teacher identifying as a Democrat or a Republican, and think it's really wrong when they are attacked for this (ie, a teacher saying she's a Democrat and being slammed for being a baby killer, or a teacher getting fired for saying he voted for Trump.)

"Civil rights are political issues."

That's not an opinion, but a simple fact. They must be fought for and won in the political arena.

"Teachers should not advocate for civil rights."

Not in the classroom or school community.

Now, you have shown in three or four comments a real confusion between "advocating for civil rights" and "ensuring students treat each other civility". So try and understand, if you can, that no competent teacher would allow one student to tell another he or she was going to hell for any reason whatsoever. It's so bizarre that I am inferring you use it as a strawhorse. I would likewise find it absurd to see anyone argue that a teacher would stay silent if one student said she was a Christian and another said "your stupid god says all gays should go to hell."

That's not political neutrality. If you don't understand how to shut down that sort of conversation without resorting to political advocacy, I'm not sure what to tell you.

"I think you are wrong to push back against demanding that students embrace equality and civil rights afforded to all."

This is political activism. I don't make political demands of my students. No teacher should. And this does not in any way stop me from ensuring that all students are treated fairly and equitably. I find it puzzling that you would be incapable of doing the same.

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50 mins ago

to North

Andrew Donaldson

+ I think you are probably right on most of that. I wonder and worry that we, meaning the US, have already promised them something significant [. . .]

I think you are probably right on most of that. I wonder and worry that we, meaning the US, have already promised them something significant to get this amount of public backtracking from them, even though it's mostly rhetoric that they can mostly ignore later on. Statements like "suspending nuclear testing" sound great but is meaningless if they have the weaponized warhead. We haven't tested a Nuke in some times, but no one doubts us having it. It's words to elicit one response, while conveying another meaning entirely.

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North Korea, Kim Jong-un Reportedly Making Big Promises

52 mins ago

to Maribou, Moderator

Michele Kerr

+ "Are you conflating me and A Teacher?" Not at all. I was apologizing for making it seem personal towards A Teacher, as opposed to just [. . .]

"Are you conflating me and A Teacher?"

Not at all. I was apologizing for making it seem personal towards A Teacher, as opposed to just having a good argument.

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When Schools Get Political, What Should Teachers Do?

1 hour ago

North

+ My own amateur read: North Korea has what they want generally and they're pivoting to conciliation now. The neocon line on NK trying to invade [. . .]

My own amateur read: North Korea has what they want generally and they're pivoting to conciliation now. The neocon line on NK trying to invade South Korea has always been pretty goofy. Conventionally SK enormously outweighs NK in terms of conventional forces. The only thing that's ever held them at parity is NK possessing the capacity to reduce Seoul to rubble in the opening stages of the conflict.
Clinton, Bush, and Obama were all trying to prevent either nuclear weapons or long range nuclear weapons. NK basically either has them or is close enough to having them for the ambiguity to make it functionally the same.

I assume NK will offer to freeze their testing and generally stop advancing in exchange for an end to the war, direct talks and whatever other economic num nums they can extort. I also assume they'll never actually give up the weapons and unless Trump entirely loses his mind, no one will go the distance that would be necessary to force them to do so. The weapons are primarily face saving at this point along with an iron clad guarantee that the US et all will never invade. Optimistically maybe at this point with their security basically assured NK will pivot to other less vile activities. Of course the worst case scenario is they either sell the weapons (highly unlikely, if a NK nuke is blown up anywhere NK will be blamed for it no matter who actually sets it off and they certainly know that) or they try and start shenanigans with SK (again unlikely, NK already had the power to level Seol, nuclear weapons don't change that).

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1 hour ago

to Michele Kerr

A Teacher

+ Perhaps I am misunderstanding you here, Ms. K. So let me recap what I think you are saying: a) Schools and school staff must remain neutral [. . .]

Perhaps I am misunderstanding you here, Ms. K.

So let me recap what I think you are saying:

a) Schools and school staff must remain neutral on all issues of politics. Their job is to challenge students to think but if something is political, they must not advocate for one side or the other.

b) Civil rights are political issues.

Now, I am extrapolating but when those two are put together I am inferring that you are saying:

c) Teachers should not advocate for civil rights.

If, and I emphasize "if", this is the case then I strongly disagree with you. That logic leads to the place I was earlier when I suggested that your views, taken as I had taken them, would lead to the conclusion that 1950!you would have remained silent when a young lady demanded to be admitted to a science class, or asked to be left alone when someone asked your thoughts on blacks sitting at a white only lunch counter.

As for the stark difference that I see between policy and civil rights, I draw lines between "Things we can disagree on" and "Things we simply must not." How to spend money? Agree to disagree. How do deal with the unusually high rates of gun violence and gun-based suicide? Agree to disagree. Should gay people have a right to exist or should they be shipped off to "re-education camps so the gay can be prayed away"? No, we don't agree to disagree there. Just like 50 years ago the Right thing was to do what we could to support the end of segregation. Perhaps we would not have then, but this is now and now we have a chance to do better.

And I'd like to add this thought:

A student may forget what you said about your vote on a policy that may or may not have provided extra school counselors to help them deal with suicidal thoughts.

They will NOT forget your kindness when you sat with them while they cried, unable to tell you that in 24 hours they intended to take their own life.

They will NOT forget your silence when a class mate told them they were going to hell for being queer. They will not forget your words of "let's agree to disagree on that."

I think you were right to push back against taking the kids to be part of a protest about school budgets.

I think you are wrong to push back against demanding that students embrace equality and civil rights afforded to all.

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